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[guest7363]

Some of them actually know better and they are just being difficult. Changing your mind means having to admit you were wrong and that's a really tough thing for some.

Changing your mind is easy David, the idea that simply changing your mind is some sort of sin or mistake—that it’s an undesirable behavior or characteristic that immediately qualifies you as unreliable, careless, and indeterminate.

When it comes to describing people who have the guts to change course, I’d actually use different adjectives altogether. What ones, exactly? Well, words like self-aware, brave, and constantly evolving seem to fit the bill.

I though this was your aim for the New Year to change your mind,  we could ask you why you changed your mind about your rifle knowledge and the weapons you fired,  I would say most who have joined the forum came we a belief that Bamber was innocent only for a high percentage to leave with a different view, hows that being difficult?

[Jane]

Changing your mind is easy David, the idea that simply changing your mind is some sort of sin or mistake—that it’s an undesirable behavior or characteristic that immediately qualifies you as unreliable, careless, and indeterminate.

When it comes to describing people who have the guts to change course, I’d actually use different adjectives altogether. What ones, exactly? Well, words like self-aware, brave, and constantly evolving seem to fit the bill.

I though this was your aim for the New Year to change your mind,  we could ask you why you changed your mind about your rifle knowledge and the weapons you fired,  I would say most who have joined the forum came we a belief that Bamber was innocent only for a high percentage to leave with a different view, hows that being difficult?

Those who take sport in pointing fingers and ridiculing others are usually attempting to deflect attention away from something they've done which they'd prefer wasn't examined too closely.

[susan]

Hi David

changing your mind on your stance regarding JB I don't think it is difficult or a person brave  it just means they have enough backbone to stand up and be counted. and being truthful is a great quality to have some have it some don't

[lookout]

I think deep down Lookout would have smiled at that one, she comes from a part of the UK steeped in laughter and jokes.  Great sense of humour in that area.

At least they'd have been the real thing here, RJ, not a couple of authentic-looking fakes hahahaha.

[guest7363]

At least they'd have been the real thing here, RJ, not a couple of authentic-looking fakes hahahaha.

😂😂😂🙈

[guest7363]

They have to blacken his character as it’s part of the “ bigger picture”

Bad character reference was essential in his trial Jan, it helped provide the motif, the greed and hatred, but I always thought that all parties to the proceedings agree to the evidence being admissible, or have I got it wrong?  I know it has to be relevant.

[Caroline]

Changing your mind is easy David, the idea that simply changing your mind is some sort of sin or mistake—that it’s an undesirable behavior or characteristic that immediately qualifies you as unreliable, careless, and indeterminate.

When it comes to describing people who have the guts to change course, I’d actually use different adjectives altogether. What ones, exactly? Well, words like self-aware, brave, and constantly evolving seem to fit the bill.

I though this was your aim for the New Year to change your mind,  we could ask you why you changed your mind about your rifle knowledge and the weapons you fired,  I would say most who have joined the forum came we a belief that Bamber was innocent only for a high percentage to leave with a different view, hows that being difficult?

A silly comment given that quite a few of us on the guilty side used to believe Jeremy was innocent and admitted to changing our mind on the forum. Of course this was before David was a member here. If something happened for me to change my mind again - I'd have no problem with that. Nothing has as yet and I don't see it happening - but even pigs can fly with the right equipment. 

[Jane]

A silly comment given that quite a few of us on the guilty side used to believe Jeremy was innocent and admitted to changing our mind on the forum. Of course this was before David was a member here. If something happened for me to change my mind again - I'd have no problem with that. Nothing has as yet and I don't see it happening - but even pigs can fly with the right equipment. 

Some people see changing their minds as being weak and would find it shaming and humiliating to admit to it. Their easiest 'get out of jail free' card, and guaranteed method of deflecting flack away from themselves, is to find someone to taunt and harangue, who's been open and unashamed about changing stance.

[sami]

A silly comment given that quite a few of us on the guilty side used to believe Jeremy was innocent and admitted to changing our mind on the forum. Of course this was before David was a member here. If something happened for me to change my mind again - I'd have no problem with that. Nothing has as yet and I don't see it happening - but even pigs can fly with the right equipment. 

[Jan]

Bad character reference was essential in his trial Jan, it helped provide the motif, the greed and hatred, but I always thought that all parties to the proceedings agree to the evidence being admissible, or have I got it wrong?  I know it has to be relevant.

I don't think they have to agree because of course the prosecution is going to use some statements and then the defence will use counter arguments or witnesses

 . However the defence do rely on all of the evidence being released to them and then they should decide what to use . I think they have said subsequently this was not the case .

Also they are free to make a comment that the evidence is irrelevant or hearsay not verified by another witness.

its a bit like my SIL says her daughter has threatened to kill her several times - have I heard it myself ? No . However she does have a lodger in the house who has heard the threats - hey presto more admissible as evidence .

[guest7363]

I don't think they have to agree because of course the prosecution is going to use some statements and then the defence will use counter arguments or witnesses

 . However the defence do rely on all of the evidence being released to them and then they should decide what to use . I think they have said subsequently this was not the case .

Also they are free to make a comment that the evidence is irrelevant or hearsay not verified by another witness.

its a bit like my SIL says her daughter has threatened to kill her several times - have I heard it myself ? No . However she does have a lodger in the house who has heard the threats - hey presto more admissible as evidence .

Its only if the Judge has agreed to it in the first place I think Jan.  but I do think if bad character is used for one, the judge tends to allow a counter attack, Ive learned this from a friend 👍.  Bad character can cover a wide range, this involves allowing previous convictions to be brought up, again it has to be agreed or the judge can dismiss it.  Judges are careful with bad character, because  along the line it could open up the chance of an appeal?

[Jan]

Its only if the Judge has agreed to it in the first place I think Jan.  but I do think if bad character is used for one, the judge tends to allow a counter attack, Ive learned this from a friend 👍.  Bad character can cover a wide range, this involves allowing previous convictions to be brought up, again it has to be agreed or the judge can dismiss it.  Judges are careful with bad character, because  along the line it could open up the chance of an appeal?

you may be right - as I said I am a bit rusty .

I am not saying witnesses necessarily made up things ( well I do think one did )  but they might well of embellished them in the light of thinking they were convicting a child killer .