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[guest7363]

thats nicely put rj

Thanks Sami, it’s the new me, RJ is reformed 😇

[Jan]

I part agree Jan, but the best planning in the world can trick you into feeling safe?  It always doesn’t go to plan Jan, I admire your knowledge about the case and admit  there  are flaws with the case,  but guilt always makes you unable to think straight, the truth is straight down the line and doesn’t deviate.

Sorry but I just have to say that that make Julie the biggest liar then . Her story not only completely changed but had several versions .

No straight down the line there I am afraid .

[Caroline]

I think my point is  he would have just planned the call more carefully if it was intended as his alibi and I can’t see any reason why he did  not .

If he was innocent and half asleep when he took the call and did not know what to do then his actions were obviously not the best but only he can say what his thought process was . We don’t all act the same in a crisis .

But if the call and the phoning the police were his alibi I think he definitely would not have made a mess of it . IMO of course .

So you think the call is odd and he made a mess of it? Same here. He obviously didn't think it was a mess and perhaps the planning and the execution were two very different things, unfortunately for him, he couldn't press stop and rewind.

[Jan]

So you think the call is odd and he made a mess of it? Same here. He obviously didn't think it was a mess and perhaps the planning and the execution were two very different things, unfortunately for him, he couldn't press stop and rewind.

Yes depends which way you look at it . At least we both agree on that .

Unusual to successfully complete everything else and then fall at the last hurdle .

[guest7363]

Sorry but I just have to say that that make Julie the biggest liar then . Her story not only completely changed but had several versions .

No straight down the line there I am afraid .

Im not a Julie supporter Jan, she didn’t conduct herself the way I would expect my daughter to behave, Julie does lie yes, most women would like their men to be kind, empathic, understanding, and respectful. But and ( please don’t take offence anyone) some are attracted and defend the rogue type, till the shit hits the pan.

[sami]

Im not a Julie supporter Jan, she didn’t conduct herself the way I would expect my daughter to behave, Julie does lie yes, most women would like their men to be kind, empathic, understanding, and respectful. But and ( please don’t take offence anyone) some are attracted and defend the rogue type, till the shit hits the pan.

your in top form tonight rj,another excellent post

[guest7363]

your in top form tonight rj,another excellent post

Thanks Sami, it’s the new me, cool calm and Collective The three C’s

[ngb1066]

Thanks Sami, it’s the new me, cool calm and Collective The three C’s

Although we do not agree about the case overall RJ, you talk a lot of sense generally.  You do have a real insight.
 

[guest7363]

Although we do not agree about the case overall RJ, you talk a lot of sense generally.  You do have a real insight.

I had a good tutor, now let me think NGB 👍. I think there’s some excellent posters NGB and I put myself below many, but in practical terms I’m up there.  I don’t study from hatred, I study from experience if that makes sense.  I’m a practical man. 

[ngb1066]

I had a good tutor, now let me think NGB 👍. I think there’s some excellent posters NGB and I put myself below many, but in practical terms I’m up there.  I don’t study from hatred, I study from experience if that makes sense.  I’m a practical man.

You are RJ.  You deserve a lot of respect.

[Caroline]

Yes depends which way you look at it . At least we both agree on that .

Unusual to successfully complete everything else and then fall at the last hurdle .

What was he successful in completing?

[JackieD]

Im not a Julie supporter Jan, she didn’t conduct herself the way I would expect my daughter to behave, Julie does lie yes, most women would like their men to be kind, empathic, understanding, and respectful. But and ( please don’t take offence anyone) some are attracted and defend the rogue type, till the shit hits the pan.

I can’t believe your post, it’s just like Prince Andrew describing his paedophile mates behaviour as unbecoming

You wouldn’t expect your daughter to behave that way??? The women is a monster whichever way you look at her
There is no excuse, not one. Either she completely stitched Jeremy up or she offered to view the bodies of two young boys and three adults (remind me how many bullets were in the children’s heads) and then hopped into bed with the person responsible and then rubbed Colin’s nose in it by arranging the NOTW deal.
No shame. No guilt nothing
Perhaps I have lived in a sheltered world but I didn’t know such wicked people existed and the other alternative is she has put an innocent man in prison for the rest of his life out of pure blind jealousy



You are making out on here as if Jeremy’s behaviour was disgusting yet he was just like any young man of his age just out having a good time with lots of girls

[Jan]

Im not a Julie supporter Jan, she didn’t conduct herself the way I would expect my daughter to behave, Julie does lie yes, most women would like their men to be kind, empathic, understanding, and respectful. But and ( please don’t take offence anyone) some are attracted and defend the rogue type, till the shit hits the pan.

Oh yes I know someone like that .

[sami]

I can’t believe your post, it’s just like Prince Andrew describing his paedophile mates behaviour as unbecoming

You wouldn’t expect your daughter to behave that way??? The women is a monster whichever way you look at her
There is no excuse, not one. Either she completely stitched Jeremy up or she offered to view the bodies of two young boys and three adults (remind me how many bullets were in the children’s heads) and then hopped into bed with the person responsible and then rubbed Colin’s nose in it by arranging the NOTW deal.
No shame. No guilt nothing
Perhaps I have lived in a sheltered world but I didn’t know such wicked people existed and the other alternative is she has put an innocent man in prison for the rest of his life out of pure blind jealousy



You are making out on here as if Jeremy’s behaviour was disgusting yet he was just like any young man of his age just out having a good time with lots of girls

iam sure we have all been in love its a wonderful thing ,it can make one do all sorts of things others might mind gross

[ngb1066]

I can’t believe your post, it’s just like Prince Andrew describing his paedophile mates behaviour as unbecoming

You wouldn’t expect your daughter to behave that way??? The women is a monster whichever way you look at her
There is no excuse, not one. Either she completely stitched Jeremy up or she offered to view the bodies of two young boys and three adults (remind me how many bullets were in the children’s heads) and then hopped into bed with the person responsible and then rubbed Colin’s nose in it by arranging the NOTW deal.
No shame. No guilt nothing
Perhaps I have lived in a sheltered world but I didn’t know such wicked people existed and the other alternative is she has put an innocent man in prison for the rest of his life out of pure blind jealousy



You are making out on here as if Jeremy’s behaviour was disgusting yet he was just like any young man of his age just out having a good time with lots of girls

I agree with you that whatever your view on the case JM comes across as dreadful.  I do not hold back in my total condemnation of her.  This is my continuing battle with some members here, particularly Steve_UK, but also to an extent Jane and even Caroline, whom I respect a lot even though I disagree with her on some aspects of the case (but agree more than you might realise on others).  However RJ has been fairly balanced in relation to JM.  He is certainly not a supporter of her.  He has a view on JB based upon people he knows and although I do not share his view I recognise that it is sincerely held and fairly argued.  I think sensible debate is the answer here, particularly if we hope to persuade people of our view.