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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #675 on: January 01, 2020, 05:09:PM »
To wretch/vomit is an involuntary act brought on/induced by shock or a trauma. There's usually no need to " stick fingers down throats ". When people are given bad news it's not unusual for this to happen and a person can be sick on the spot.

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« Reply #676 on: January 01, 2020, 05:12:PM »
At the hour of the morning that it was I'd hardly think that JB had anything in his stomach to bring up.

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« Reply #677 on: January 01, 2020, 05:15:PM »
i thank stan jones said it looked like he was (trying) to be sick

I just read. The statements I don’t think it was referring to the accusation it was self induced .

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« Reply #678 on: January 01, 2020, 05:16:PM »
To wretch/vomit is an involuntary act brought on/induced by shock or a trauma. There's usually no need to " stick fingers down throats ". When people are given bad news it's not unusual for this to happen and a person can be sick on the spot.


Mmm. Then there are eating disorders, migraines, even excess of alcohol. All relieved by the placement of fingers in throats.

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« Reply #679 on: January 01, 2020, 05:18:PM »

Mmm. Then there are eating disorders, migraines, even excess of alcohol. All relieved by the placement of fingers in throats.

That’s stating the obvious . There is no evidence to suggest he was faking vomiting.

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« Reply #680 on: January 01, 2020, 05:20:PM »
That’s stating the obvious . There is no evidence to suggest he was faking vomiting.


Was anyone expecting fakery?

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« Reply #681 on: January 01, 2020, 05:26:PM »
At the hour of the morning that it was I'd hardly think that JB had anything in his stomach to bring up.
He'd been given a whisky by Dr Craig.

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« Reply #682 on: January 01, 2020, 05:26:PM »

Mmm. Then there are eating disorders, migraines, even excess of alcohol. All relieved by the placement of fingers in throats.





Migraines will invariably bring involuntary heaving/vomiting.
Eating disorders are an entirely different condition and self induced after eating.
Alcohol, much the same as migraine.

Nobody would stick their fingers down their throat unless they were neurotic and trying to prove something as it's not the norm in a healthy person. JB was/is probably not a sickly person and stopped himself from throwing up, but as I said his stomach would have been empty anyway and he'd just have wretched.
 

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« Reply #683 on: January 01, 2020, 05:30:PM »




Migraines will invariably bring involuntary heaving/vomiting.
Eating disorders are an entirely different condition and self induced after eating.
Alcohol, much the same as migraine.

Nobody would stick their fingers down their throat unless they were neurotic and trying to prove something as it's not the norm in a healthy person. JB was/is probably not a sickly person and stopped himself from throwing up, but as I said his stomach would have been empty anyway and he'd just have wretched.


REALLY? Lookout, in the days when I suffered them, I regularly put my fingers down my throat to relieve migraine, and as it was something recommended by a fellow sufferer, I guess I'm not alone.

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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #684 on: January 01, 2020, 05:32:PM »
He'd been given a whisky by Dr Craig.





That wouldn't have had any effect than perhaps make him heave if it wasn't JB's tipple.

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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #685 on: January 01, 2020, 05:57:PM »
That’s stating the obvious . There is no evidence to suggest he was faking vomiting.
theres no evidence to say he vomited either

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« Reply #686 on: January 01, 2020, 05:58:PM »
I just read. The statements I don’t think it was referring to the accusation it was self induced .
i try and read but my memory is not as good as yours

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« Reply #687 on: January 01, 2020, 06:17:PM »

REALLY? Lookout, in the days when I suffered them, I regularly put my fingers down my throat to relieve migraine, and as it was something recommended by a fellow sufferer, I guess I'm not alone.





I just had a good heave-ho and that would usually guarantee a migraine to go, though I'd feel as though I'd been through the mangle for a couple of days, before another started up.

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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #688 on: January 01, 2020, 06:21:PM »
To wretch/vomit is an involuntary act brought on/induced by shock or a trauma. There's usually no need to " stick fingers down throats ". When people are given bad news it's not unusual for this to happen and a person can be sick on the spot.

There is if you're acting.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Video re photographs non-disclosure
« Reply #689 on: January 01, 2020, 06:29:PM »

The problem here is empathy, or more correctly, LACK of it. You, and others, are SO certain how you'd have felt and sure of what you'd have done. The truth is, you only THINK you know. Unless you -or I- were any of those who played a part in this tragedy, and had their history, we haven't a clue.

The same argument goes for those who say they would have called 999 or gone straight to the farm, or whatever.