The Finding of the Silencer by David Boutflour on September 11th 1985

[Harry]

David Boutflour did not find the silencer on August 10th 1985. Police records show that the silencer was found and collected on September 11th. The silencer sent to Huntingdon Laboratory on August 14th was found by the police on August 7th with the relatives playing no part.

The evidence to expose the conspiracy and the backdating of Boutflour's description of events on September 11th has been in the public domain for at least seven years. The question we need to ask is why no formal accusation of the relatives has been made, when it is so easy to substantiate the claim. I will try to do so here as briefly as possible.

From David Boutflour's Statement
Date 17th November 1985

"On Saturday 10th August 1985 I removed from Whitehouse Farm a sound moderator (ref DBR/1) along with guns and ammunition (ref DBR/3 & 4), this I have already mentioned in a previous statement.

After taking the sound moderator guns and ammunition from Whitehouse farm, I took them them to Oak Farm Loamy Hill Road Tollesunt major and handed the sound moderator (ref DBR/1) guns and ammunition (ref DBR 3&4) to Ann and Peter Eaton living at that address. The items I handed over to Mr and Mrs Eaton already included the Telescopic sight (ref DBR/2)"

This statement of David Boutflour and the earlier statement he refers to in it are definitely exposed as fraudulent by police records which refer to items with equivalent exhibit references going by descriptions which were collected by DC Oakey on September 11th

[Harry]

From the statement of DC Oakey dated October 25th 1985.

There is slight change in the exhibit references from
DBR to DRB but the items mentioned such as the telescopic sight DBR/2 or DRB/2 show they are equivalent in the statements of David Boutflour and DC Oakey.

"At 1820 hours. on Wednesday, 11th September 1985, I was on duty, when I went to Oak Farm, Loamy Hill Road, Tolleshunt Major. I received from Mrs Ann Eaton one Nikko Stirling Telescopic Sight in box (Exhibit DRB/2 and an ABU carrier bag, containing seven boxes of fifty Eley Subsonic Hollowpoint .22 bullets and one empty .22 bullet box (Exhibit DRB/3)

At 1500 hours. on Saturday. 14th September 1985, I was on duty. at Witham Police Station, when I received from Mr David BOUTFLOUR one Raker cartridges box. containing fourteen smaller boxes. each containing twenty-five rounds of 12 bore ammunition (Exhibit DRB/4).

On top of one of the smaller boxes was a spot of what appeared to be blood. I later caused this smaller box, the Telescopic Sight box from Exhibit DBR/2 and the empty .22 bullet box from Exhibit DRB/3 to be forwarded to the Home Office Forensic science Laboratory. Huntingdon."

It is notable that Oakey has omitted any mention of DRB/1 in this statement. This seems illogical as the other exhibit references imply the existence of a DRB/1. It's a bit like somebody telling us who was second and third in a race, but not telling us who won. Of course there must have been a winner. Similarly, Oakey or someone else must also have collected a DRB/1 at some time otherwise the other exhibit references would not make logical sense.

And we know that Oakey did collect it, because other records indicate that DBR/1 which was the reference for the silencer was in fact collected along with the other exhibits with DRB references by DC Oakey from Ann and Peter Eaton on September 11th 1985.

(Doc P31) Telephone Message Log 38, 11th September 1985 reads:
‘David Boutflour has found a silencer with blood on it’

(Doc P35) Action Report 88 reads: ‘Collection of silencer AE (Ann Eaton) 11th September to Wright items obtained by DC Oakey’

(Doc P34) Action Report 181 allocated to DS Davidson, 13th September 1985: “Examine the following for blood fibres and finger prints. 2/ cardboard box containing silencer and ammunition. 3/ Check silencer for fibres”

[Harry]

Here are pictures of documents which reveal the real dates when exhibits mentioned were found.

[Harry]

The fact that David Boutflour made his statement on September 12th strongly suggests that the whole performance of finding a silencer on September 11th (to be backdated in witness statements) was set up.

The police must have explained the purpose behind the deception. The relatives play acting shows they knew what the police required and what it was for. The way the relatives all make statements corroborating the finding on the 10th of August with each noticing the blood and paint on it and so on, shows that they willingly participated in the framing of Jeremy Bamber.

The fact that the statement recording the "finding" was ready to be signed only a day after it was found makes it seem likely that the plan involved telling the relatives to go to the farm on September 11th to collect items which had been deliberately left there by the police. The police must have explained the plan to the relatives. David Boutflour was to look in the gun cupboard and find a silencer along with other items with the exhibit references given above. Then he was to sign a statement dated September 12 claiming to have found those things on August 10th.

[Harry]

The intention, it would appear, was to pretend that a silencer which had been deliberately contaminated had been  "found" by the relatives (with the finding backdated in statements by David Boutlour and Ann Eaton.) was the same one which the police had found on the day of the killings and which had been sent to the laboratory to be examined by Glynnis Howard on August 14th, but which had no evidence on it implicating Jeremy Bamber.

The second silencer had been deliberately contaminated with paint from the aga which was not found on the silencer SBJ/1 which DS "Stan" Jones had collected on August 7th. The relatives played no part in the finding of that silencer which was the one examined by Glynnis Howard on September 14th.

[Harry]

The Perjury of Ann Eaton and David Boutflour

The "finding" was set up. The relatives must have been told to go to Whitehouse Farm on September 11th and to collect items planted there by the police (probably things that they had already collected themselves) plus one other thing-an identical silencer to the one found by the police on August 7th-which had been contaminated to incriminate Jeremy Bamber.

Then on the 12th September after the visit to the farm, David Boutflour and his sister Ann Eaton each signed fraudulent witness statements in which they relate how the silencer and guns and ammunition were found on August 10th. They simply backdated the events of the previous day, according to instructions given to them by the police. We know this because police records exist which tell the real truth about when the items described were found and when they were collected.

On several later occasions fraudulent witness statements corroborating David Boutflour's account were signed by the other relatives including Ann and Peter Eaton, Robert Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter. All of those liars tell the same story about David finding the silencer, the telescopic sight and boxes of ammunition on August 10th.

Some people seem to believe that repetition and copying are the test of  truthfulness. It's rather like arguing that what is said in a newspaper report must be true because of how many copies were printed. Others exclaim "How can all those people be lying?"

We now know that Bamber's relatives signed fraudulent witness statements and that all of the statements of the police which seem to corroborate the finding of the silencer on August 10th are also fraudulent. Industrial scale conspiracy! The facts speak for themselves.

[Harry]

It has become part of the received view of the Bamber case that the relatives found a silencer at Whitehouse Farm on August 10th 1985. But police records indicate that the items referred to were found on September 11th and handed in to the police on the same day, not a whole month before.  The plain truth of the matter is that there was no finding of a silencer on August 10th.

[David1819]

lol

[Harry]

lol

So you think David Boutflour found a telescopic sight twice, once on August 10th and again on September 11th and also identical batches of ammunition and stuff on two occasions. 

Your duplication theory does not work. The relatives did not find those same exhibits twice. How do you reconcile the statements of David Boutflour and DC Oakey?

As I was saying, some people seem to believe that repetition and copying are the test of  truthfulness. It's rather like arguing that what is said in a newspaper report must be true because of how many copies were printed. Others exclaim "How can all those people be lying?"

 

[lookout]

SJ found the silencer on 7th of August.

[Caroline]

Here are pictures of documents which reveal the real dates when exhibits mentioned were found.

I don't actually believe the silencer was used BUT how do these documents prove anything. For example the first one which states that "it was not" seems to be referring to the notion that it was doubled bagged (because as we know, it was put in a cardboard tube), NOT that DB didn't find it at all.

[Caroline]

The fact that David Boutflour made his statement on September 12th strongly suggests that the whole performance of finding a silencer on September 11th (to be backdated in witness statements) was set up.

The police must have explained the purpose behind the deception. The relatives play acting shows they knew what the police required and what it was for. The way the relatives all make statements corroborating the finding on the 10th of August with each noticing the blood and paint on it and so on, shows that they willingly participated in the framing of Jeremy Bamber.

The fact that the statement recording the "finding" was ready to be signed only a day after it was found makes it seem likely that the plan involved telling the relatives to go to the farm on September 11th to collect items which had been deliberately left there by the police. The police must have explained the plan to the relatives. David Boutflour was to look in the gun cupboard and find a silencer along with other items with the exhibit references given above. Then he was to sign a statement dated September 12 claiming to have found those things on August 10th.

He made the statement then because it was JUST after Bamber was arrested. What do you mean by "the statement recording the "finding" was ready to be signed only a day after it was found"?

[Caroline]

The Perjury of Ann Eaton and David Boutflour

The "finding" was set up. The relatives must have been told to go to Whitehouse Farm on September 11th and to collect items planted there by the police (probably things that they had already collected themselves) plus one other thing-an identical silencer to the one found by the police on August 7th-which had been contaminated to incriminate Jeremy Bamber.

Then on the 12th September after the visit to the farm, David Boutflour and his sister Ann Eaton each signed fraudulent witness statements in which they relate how the silencer and guns and ammunition were found on August 10th. They simply backdated the events of the previous day, according to instructions given to them by the police. We know this because police records exist which tell the real truth about when the items described were found and when they were collected.

On several later occasions fraudulent witness statements corroborating David Boutflour's account were signed by the other relatives including Ann and Peter Eaton, Robert Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter. All of those liars tell the same story about David finding the silencer, the telescopic sight and boxes of ammunition on August 10th.

Some people seem to believe that repetition and copying are the test of  truthfulness. It's rather like arguing that what is said in a newspaper report must be true because of how many copies were printed. Others exclaim "How can all those people be lying?"

We now know that Bamber's relatives signed fraudulent witness statements and that all of the statements of the police which seem to corroborate the finding of the silencer on August 10th are also fraudulent. Industrial scale conspiracy! The facts speak for themselves.

But you haven't posted any?

[Jane]

The Perjury of Ann Eaton and David Boutflour

The "finding" was set up. The relatives must have been told to go to Whitehouse Farm on September 11th and to collect items planted there by the police (probably things that they had already collected themselves) plus one other thing-an identical silencer to the one found by the police on August 7th-which had been contaminated to incriminate Jeremy Bamber.

Then on the 12th September after the visit to the farm, David Boutflour and his sister Ann Eaton each signed fraudulent witness statements in which they relate how the silencer and guns and ammunition were found on August 10th. They simply backdated the events of the previous day, according to instructions given to them by the police. We know this because police records exist which tell the real truth about when the items described were found and when they were collected.

On several later occasions fraudulent witness statements corroborating David Boutflour's account were signed by the other relatives including Ann and Peter Eaton, Robert Boutflour and Anthony Pargeter. All of those liars tell the same story about David finding the silencer, the telescopic sight and boxes of ammunition on August 10th.

Some people seem to believe that repetition and copying are the test of  truthfulness. It's rather like arguing that what is said in a newspaper report must be true because of how many copies were printed. Others exclaim "How can all those people be lying?"

We now know that Bamber's relatives signed fraudulent witness statements and that all of the statements of the police which seem to corroborate the finding of the silencer on August 10th are also fraudulent. Industrial scale conspiracy! The facts speak for themselves.

To all budding authors. It's always advisable to walk away from ones fictional work, then go back, after a few hours, and look at it with a critical eye to see if what's been written still sounds feasible.

[lookout]

SJ found the silencer on 7th of August.

SBJ/1----original murder/suicide documents.