Author Topic: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!  (Read 28716 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Caroline

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 27076
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #165 on: July 06, 2018, 03:40:PM »
This whole premise seems to be undermined by the tactical firearms officers - who complained individually and collectively on more than one occasion, that Sheila's crime scene had altered, from when they last saw it to when they were shown it in crime scene photographs.  They were effectively 'slapped down'. You can see the results of this (i.e. they eventually start to question themselves).   

This information did not come to light until many years after Jeremy's incarceration.  It wasn't available to the defence at trial. 

No information has come to light regarding the TFG questioning any other victim's crime scene.  Only Sheila Caffell's.  And low and behold - Sheila is the victim that has supposedly been 'staged'.

How could Jeremy Bamber be responsible for these anomalies?  He was outside with police.

'Slapped down' is your interpretation, not theirs. However, you regularly have Ainsley as the main instigator, but, he was also responsible for commissioning Kenneally to review the case. Surely all Ainsley had to do was get him to conclude that Sheila couldn't have been responsible? 

How do you know the TFG have never questioned any other crime scene and they didn't really 'question' it, they were unsure a month or so later of how things looked. As far as the info we have here goes, there were two officers who wee unsure - two out of how many?
« Last Edit: July 06, 2018, 03:43:PM by Caroline »
Few people have the imagination for reality

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17576
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #166 on: July 06, 2018, 05:26:PM »
'Slapped down' is your interpretation, not theirs. However, you regularly have Ainsley as the main instigator, but, he was also responsible for commissioning Kenneally to review the case. Surely all Ainsley had to do was get him to conclude that Sheila couldn't have been responsible? 

How do you know the TFG have never questioned any other crime scene and they didn't really 'question' it, they were unsure a month or so later of how things looked. As far as the info we have here goes, there were two officers who wee unsure - two out of how many?

I don't understand the point you're making re Ainsley and Kenneally.
 
It was not only two officers that were uncomfortable with the mismatch between crime scene photography and the scene as they left it. There were 'real concerns' and these were expressed as a team, not just by a couple of officers individually.

If any similar concerns had been unearthed regarding the other crime scenes, the defence and campaign would have shouted them from the rooftops as further evidence of something gone awry at the scene.

It's no coincidence therefore, that concerns expressed behind the scenes, through the correct channels and unbeknown to outsiders, just happened to relate to the 'staged' victim (or perpetrator). 

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13705
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #167 on: July 06, 2018, 06:24:PM »
This whole premise seems to be undermined by the tactical firearms officers - who complained individually and collectively on more than one occasion, that Sheila's crime scene had altered, from when they last saw it to when they were shown it in crime scene photographs.  They were effectively 'slapped down'. You can see the results of this (i.e. they eventually start to question themselves).   

This information did not come to light until many years after Jeremy's incarceration.  It wasn't available to the defence at trial. 



It was never part of the prosecutions case in 1986 that Jeremy had moved Sheila's body after death. There was nothing for the defence to refute on this matter.

I personally believe all the discrepancies on Sheila's body is a result of the prosecution exploring this as an argument to use at the upcomming trial but chose not to play that hand because this would expose the tactical firearms officers to cross examination on this matter and the defence would easily refute it.





Offline Caroline

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 27076
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #168 on: July 06, 2018, 06:38:PM »
I don't understand the point you're making re Ainsley and Kenneally.
 
It was not only two officers that were uncomfortable with the mismatch between crime scene photography and the scene as they left it. There were 'real concerns' and these were expressed as a team, not just by a couple of officers individually.

If any similar concerns had been unearthed regarding the other crime scenes, the defence and campaign would have shouted them from the rooftops as further evidence of something gone awry at the scene.

It's no coincidence therefore, that concerns expressed behind the scenes, through the correct channels and unbeknown to outsiders, just happened to relate to the 'staged' victim (or perpetrator).

So where is the evidence for this?
Few people have the imagination for reality

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17576
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #169 on: July 06, 2018, 07:55:PM »
So where is the evidence for this?

The mention of group concerns and 'we' (as in TFG) is Delgado / Dickinson.

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13705
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #170 on: July 06, 2018, 08:20:PM »
The mention of group concerns and 'we' (as in TFG) is Delgado / Dickinson.


We know the police moved stuff. Vanesiz was also consulted the TFG on the matter.


It was never alleged at the 1986 trial that the defendent moved the body. The "evidence" brought forward by the prosecution in 2001 was blocked on legal grounds of it allready having been avaliable to the prosecution back in 1986.


From a legal point of view there is nothing to challenge. From a factual point of view we can deduce the police moved stuff around hence the prosecution never brought this up to risk opening a can of worms.


All in all the police have actually done nothing wrong since the notion of Sheila's dead body moving after death was never blamed on Jeremy and put in front the Jury anyway. If it was then that would be another matter all together.

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17576
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #171 on: July 06, 2018, 10:23:PM »

We know the police moved stuff. Vanesiz was also consulted the TFG on the matter.


It was never alleged at the 1986 trial that the defendent moved the body. The "evidence" brought forward by the prosecution in 2001 was blocked on legal grounds of it allready having been avaliable to the prosecution back in 1986.


From a legal point of view there is nothing to challenge. From a factual point of view we can deduce the police moved stuff around hence the prosecution never brought this up to risk opening a can of worms.


All in all the police have actually done nothing wrong since the notion of Sheila's dead body moving after death was never blamed on Jeremy and put in front the Jury anyway. If it was then that would be another matter all together.

With respect, that's missing the point. The police had no reason to move Sheila prior to crime scene photography.  The fact that they did and the fact that the prosecution case relies upon the argument  Sheila's body was staged by JB, cannot be ignored.   

Offline mike tesko

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51079
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #172 on: July 06, 2018, 10:30:PM »
I believe he did and we've been over the other stuff before. You say her body was on the bed but have never shown any evidence of it.

You misunderstand your own observations, since of course evidence exists which was not made available to the jury at the time of trial, that indeed Sheila Caffell's body had been laid on top of the bed in the main bedroom (after 9.05am), and that at 8.44am Sheila's body was undoubtedly on the far side of the bed - furthermore, the contents of my letter addressed to Jeremy Bamber which includes reference to the fact that there existed a photograph of Sheila's body laid on top of the bed alone, at a time when she had only received the non fatal shot across the neck! The prison service refused to even allow Jeremy to see the contents of my letter, or the enclosed photograph of Sheila on the bed before the second fatal shot got inflicted!

I am not alone in promoting the fact that prior to Sheila's body being moved to the main bedroom floor where she got shot and killed by a loaded rifle which at around 7.15am, was resting against a first floor box room window..

Ann Eaton and the other relatives were told about this on the first morning of the police investigation!

Before this, Sheila's had been the female body reported as present in the kitchen upon entry by the armed police, as per the contents of timed police radio message log contents! Her death was being spoken about in terms of it having been a suicide from as early as 7.45am!

You would do well to remember that it is confirmed by a reliance upon the contents of these timed police radio message logs, the the suicide is a reference to the second body found in the sequence of body count and that the second body found upon entry to the kitchen was that of the body of one dead female! You can pretend all you like that June Bambers was the second body found upstairs, but how could anyone describe the manner with which she had been killed and had died, considering that she was shot a total of 7 times (one of these 7 shots was I clicked between the eyes)!!
« Last Edit: July 06, 2018, 10:38:PM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51079
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #173 on: July 06, 2018, 10:39:PM »
You misunderstand your own observations, since of course evidence exists which was not made available to the jury at the time of trial, that indeed Sheila Caffell's body had been laid on top of the bed in the main bedroom (after 9.05am), and that at 8.44am Sheila's body was undoubtedly on the far side of the bed - furthermore, the contents of my letter addressed to Jeremy Bamber which includes reference to the fact that there existed a photograph of Sheila's body laid on top of the bed alone, at a time when she had only received the non fatal shot across the neck! The prison service refused to even allow Jeremy to see the contents of my letter, or the enclosed photograph of Sheila on the bed before the second fatal shot got inflicted!

I am not alone in promoting the fact that prior to Sheila's body being moved to the main bedroom floor where she got shot and killed by a loaded rifle which at around 7.15am, was resting against a first floor box room window..

Ann Eaton and the other relatives were told about this on the first morning of the police investigation!

Before this, Sheila's had been the female body reported as present in the kitchen upon entry by the armed police, as per the contents of timed police radio message log contents! Her death was being spoken about in terms of it having been a suicide from as early as 7.45am!

You would do well to remember that it is confirmed by a reliance upon the contents of these timed police radio message logs, the the suicide is a reference to the second body found in the sequence of body count and that the second body found upon entry to the kitchen was that of the body of one dead female! You can pretend all you like that June Bambers was the second body found upstairs, but how could anyone describe the manner with which she had been killed and had died, considering that she was shot a total of 7 times (one of these 7 shots was I clicked between the eyes)!!

June Bambers death could never be described as death by suicide!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51079
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #174 on: July 06, 2018, 10:47:PM »
The only death which could remotely have been described as 'a suicide' was the death of Sheila Caffell, as it turned out to be, initially downstairs in the kitchen prior to 8.10am, secondly, when her body was resting on the far side of the bed, (8.44am) or as the case may be, when her body was resting on top of the bed (after 9.05am) with a Bible on her chest and the rifle resting on the bed in-between the bodies of Sheila and June Bamber..

I am in no doubt that if the jury had known about these key and very crucial details, that they would have acquitted Jeremy Bamber of these murders because the overwhelming facts point to Sheila Caffell's body as being present at different locations inside the farmhouse before the people who staged her death scene on the bedroom did so, with a view to preserving their reputation, and avoiding an investigation into the conduct of the firearm officers, senior officers and SOCO in doing everything within their power and remit to present Sheila's death as a suicide!!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51079
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #175 on: July 06, 2018, 10:50:PM »
The only death which could remotely have been described as 'a suicide' was the death of Sheila Caffell, as it turned out to be, initially downstairs in the kitchen prior to 8.10am, secondly, when her body was resting on the far side of the bed, (8.44am) or as the case may be, when her body was resting on top of the bed (after 9.05am) with a Bible on her chest and the rifle resting on the bed in-between the bodies of Sheila and June Bamber..

I am in no doubt that if the jury had known about these key and very crucial details, that they would have acquitted Jeremy Bamber of these murders because the overwhelming facts point to Sheila Caffell's body as being present at different locations inside the farmhouse before the people who staged her death scene on the bedroom did so, with a view to preserving their reputation, and avoiding an investigation into the conduct of the firearm officers, senior officers and SOCO in doing everything within their power and remit to present Sheila's death as a suicide!!

When...

If the truth be known, she had died as a result of a tragic accident which had gone dramatically wrong whilst senior officers were undertaking a training exercise known as 'informatives'...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51079
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #176 on: July 06, 2018, 10:54:PM »
Why is it, that there does not exist any disclosed police report, or witness statement made by any of these senior officers explaining what was done during these informatives?

Furthermore, no report, or witness statement about the roles played by the first team of SOCO whilst at the same time, senior officers moved bodies and exhibits about until they were finally satisfied and staged Sheila Caffell's death as a suicide, there on the main bedroom floor - not staged by Jeremy Bamber!

The position of the adult bodies, in particular, the body of Sheila Caffell, was captured in crime scene photographs and a crime scene video by the first team of SOCO who carried out these duties between around 9.00am and 10.00am whilst senior officers including Harris, Gibbons, Wright, Jones, Miller, Cook and Montgomery / Woodcock interfered with the crime scenes downstairs in the kitchen and upstairs in the main bedroom! Now, we know that DC Henderson and DC Oakey attended the incident as the first team of SOCO on this occasion, and we now know that between them they took hundreds of crime scene photographs, and the crime scene video, and that they performed these duties at the material time when the bodies of Sheila Caffell and June Bamber were laid side by side on top of the bed, at a time when Sheila had only been shot once to the neck! It is also true that one or other of Henderson / Oakey photographed Sheila Caffell's body laid on top of the bed on her own after police had moved June Bambers body onto the floor at the bedroom doorway!

All of these police officers that I have named must have made notebook entries, written Reports and made witness statements concerning what they had seen and done during that critical one hour period inside the farmhouse between 9.00am and 10.00am, yet nothing from any of these police officers has been forthcoming and so we can safely adduce that this information and this evidence has been, and continues to be deliberately withheld!

Let's look at the total number of crime scene photographs which were deliberately withheld and concealed from Jeremy Bambers legal team and the court which tried the case in 1986, as well as the appeal of 2002...

What Essex police had by the end of September 1985 was around 581 photographs / images which formed part of an album which was known to the police and the CPS, as 'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM'...

Originally this was in the possession of DCI Jones, until he was abruptly removed from leadership of the investigation because of pressure exerted onto ACC Peter Simpson at the end of the first week in September, and the eventual replacement of that list being handed to DCS Mick Ainsley. At the time Ainsley took charge of the new investigation, he wasn't given access to all 581 photographs or 'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM', because by that stage Peter Simpson had confiscated it, and it was kept under lick and key inside his office safe at Police Headquarters...

In its place, was introduced a fake version of all the photographs, consisting of around 223 photographs which had been selected for the purpose of supporting the argument that the firearms officers had only found Neville Bambers body downstairs in the kitchen, and the other four bodies of victims had all been found upstairs! These 223 photographs were presented and became known or referred to, as 'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM'..

'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM' Containing around 223 photographs was a deception introduced by Essex police as an attempt to try and conceal police involvement in the shooting and the death of Sheila Caffell at the scene! With this in mind, a total of 358 images were deemed too sensitive to ever release to Jeremy Bambers legal team, or to the court which tried the matter, and for that matter, the court of appeal (in 2092) which considered the failed appeal!

So, how did 'THE MASTER COOY ALBUM' which consisted of only 223 of the 581 photographs which had been taken come to be created?

« Last Edit: July 07, 2018, 09:12:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline David1819

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13705
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #177 on: July 06, 2018, 11:41:PM »
With respect, that's missing the point. The police had no reason to move Sheila prior to crime scene photography.  The fact that they did and the fact that the prosecution case relies upon the argument  Sheila's body was staged by JB, cannot be ignored.   


No the prosecutions case relied on the silencer containing Sheila's blood group. Subsequently arguing that Sheila could not have killed herself and thus Nevills call to Jeremy only leaves one possible suspected - Jeremy.

Offline Roch

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17576
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #178 on: July 07, 2018, 06:26:AM »

No the prosecutions case relied on the silencer containing Sheila's blood group. Subsequently arguing that Sheila could not have killed herself and thus Nevills call to Jeremy only leaves one possible suspected - Jeremy.

Which means ergo their case is that Jeremy must have stage managed Sheila Caffell's crime scene. Except the TFG were not happy with this as depicted in crime scene images.  Which means that after they departed the crime scene but before any official photography occurred, somebody had altered the scene - which is most unusual.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2018, 06:27:AM by Roch »

Offline mike tesko

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 51079
Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #179 on: July 07, 2018, 09:20:AM »
Why is it, that there does not exist any disclosed police report, or witness statement made by any of these senior officers explaining what was done during these informatives?

Furthermore, no report, or witness statement about the roles played by the first team of SOCO whilst at the same time, senior officers moved bodies and exhibits about until they were finally satisfied and staged Sheila Caffell's death as a suicide, there on the main bedroom floor - not staged by Jeremy Bamber!

The position of the adult bodies, in particular, the body of Sheila Caffell, was captured in crime scene photographs and a crime scene video by the first team of SOCO who carried out these duties between around 9.00am and 10.00am whilst senior officers including Harris, Gibbons, Wright, Jones, Miller, Cook and Montgomery / Woodcock interfered with the crime scenes downstairs in the kitchen and upstairs in the main bedroom! Now, we know that DC Henderson and DC Oakey attended the incident as the first team of SOCO on this occasion, and we now know that between them they took hundreds of crime scene photographs, and the crime scene video, and that they performed these duties at the material time when the bodies of Sheila Caffell and June Bamber were laid side by side on top of the bed, at a time when Sheila had only been shot once to the neck! It is also true that one or other of Henderson / Oakey photographed Sheila Caffell's body laid on top of the bed on her own after police had moved June Bambers body onto the floor at the bedroom doorway!

All of these police officers that I have named must have made notebook entries, written Reports and made witness statements concerning what they had seen and done during that critical one hour period inside the farmhouse between 9.00am and 10.00am, yet nothing from any of these police officers has been forthcoming and so we can safely adduce that this information and this evidence has been, and continues to be deliberately withheld!

Let's look at the total number of crime scene photographs which were deliberately withheld and concealed from Jeremy Bambers legal team and the court which tried the case in 1986, as well as the appeal of 2002...

What Essex police had by the end of September 1985 was around 581 photographs / images which formed part of an album which was known to the police and the CPS, as 'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM'...

Originally this was in the possession of DCI Jones, until he was abruptly removed from leadership of the investigation because of pressure exerted onto ACC Peter Simpson at the end of the first week in September, and the eventual replacement of that list being handed to DCS Mick Ainsley. At the time Ainsley took charge of the new investigation, he wasn't given access to all 581 photographs or 'THE SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM', because by that stage Peter Simpson had confiscated it, and it was kept under lick and key inside his office safe at Police Headquarters...

In its place, was introduced a fake version of all the photographs, consisting of around 223 photographs which had been selected for the purpose of supporting the argument that the firearms officers had only found Neville Bambers body downstairs in the kitchen, and the other four bodies of victims had all been found upstairs! These 223 photographs were presented and became known or referred to, as 'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM'..

'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM' Containing around 223 photographs was a deception introduced by Essex police as an attempt to try and conceal police involvement in the shooting and the death of Sheila Caffell at the scene! With this in mind, a total of 358 images were deemed too sensitive to ever release to Jeremy Bambers legal team, or to the court which tried the matter, and for that matter, the court of appeal (in 2092) which considered the failed appeal!

So, how did 'THE MASTER COOY ALBUM' which consisted of only 223 of the 581 photographs which had been taken come to be created?

Well, PC Bird (2nd SOCO team) was asked to create it!

But he made some errors, because he included in 'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM' that he was ordered to create, a number of crime scene photographs which DC Oakey and DC Henderson had taken at the scene of the rifles barrel resting against the left hand side of Sheila Caffell's neck (crime scene photo's no. 25) and the anshuzt rifle which had been removed from Sheila's body after she had been shot and put at the main bedroom window (crime scene photograph no. 21)...

In his haste to create a false photographic record, so that the role played by senior officers, firearm officers and the two teams of SOCO in the cover up involving the true circumstances of how Sheila Caffell had met her end of days, PC Bird unwittingly included at least these two key photographs (21 and 25) in the wrong photographic album!
« Last Edit: July 07, 2018, 09:28:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...