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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2018, 01:57:PM »
Admirably trusting, or unbelievably naive.

Genuine question. Do you usually find it easy to trust people implicitly having a very limited knowledge of them as people and very limited interaction with them? Or is jb a rare exception?





So far as where " people " are concerned I'd say that my mistrust of them comes before trust,either by not having seen them ( as in this case ) or by seeing them.

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2018, 02:01:PM »
Hasn't ANYONE had a " gut- feeling " about someone where you've either thought or said that " there's something not quite right about a certain person ?" 
I don't take everyone at face value you know----certainly not as much as you obviously do.
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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2018, 02:16:PM »
Hasn't ANYONE had a " gut- feeling " about someone where you've either thought or said that " there's something not quite right about a certain person ?" 
I don't take everyone at face value you know----certainly not as much as you obviously do.
If this point is aimed at me, then having personally met hundreds of legal clients over the years, not taking people at face value is an invaluable tool to have, particularly when clients claim one thing which may be some distance from the truth.

I've certainly never based my advice on any given case on a "gut feeling" i may or may not have about a client or a course of action which should be taken.

Advice is given based on my legal training, further research, looking at previous analagous cases, discussing the case with colleagues, seeking the advice of experts in particular fields etc.

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2018, 02:45:PM »
If this point is aimed at me, then having personally met hundreds of legal clients over the years, not taking people at face value is an invaluable tool to have, particularly when clients claim one thing which may be some distance from the truth.

I've certainly never based my advice on any given case on a "gut feeling" i may or may not have about a client or a course of action which should be taken.

Advice is given based on my legal training, further research, looking at previous analagous cases, discussing the case with colleagues, seeking the advice of experts in particular fields etc.






And I'm with Michael Mansfield with his " guilty until proven innocent " seeing as he's had 50 years experience------mistrust before trust.

Your mate Stan Jones based his verdict------before any investigation,on gut-feeling where a man's future hung in the balance, but that doesn't matter does it,him being a police sergeant ?

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2018, 02:59:PM »





And I'm with Michael Mansfield with his " guilty until proven innocent " seeing as he's had 50 years experience------mistrust before trust.

Your mate Stan Jones based his verdict------before any investigation,on gut-feeling where a man's future hung in the balance, but that doesn't matter does it,him being a police sergeant ?

Not sure if it will disappoint you to know that having never met nor spoken to the man, Stan Jones is not my mate!

Equally, my comments referred to my opinions, from experience working in a solicitor capacity. I have no idea the thought process or working role of police officers.

Maybe you would have different opinion if you had ever worked in a legal field or had experience of the workings of a solicitor.

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2018, 03:04:PM »
One of her eyes is sightly open.

Yes, I noticed that, but my understanding was that in cases of a brutal death, including being shot to death, that the victims eyes almost always spring and remain wide open, which some people believe is the route through which the human soul escapes the body!
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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2018, 03:13:PM »





And I'm with Michael Mansfield with his " guilty until proven innocent " seeing as he's had 50 years experience------mistrust before trust.

Your mate Stan Jones based his verdict------before any investigation,on gut-feeling where a man's future hung in the balance, but that doesn't matter does it,him being a police sergeant ?

This is a COMPLETE contradiction. You're with Michael Mansfield in that a person is guilty until proven innocent but Stan Jones (who had many years of experience as a police officer) was wrong for doing the very thing you applaud Mansfield for?  ::)
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2018, 03:19:PM »
Yes, I noticed that, but my understanding was that in cases of a brutal death, including being shot to death, that the victims eyes almost always spring and remain wide open, which some people believe is the route through which the human soul escapes the body!

I think it might just depend on the situation.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2018, 03:26:PM »
I am a little concerned also about what appears to be bruising around Sheila Caffell's neck?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2018, 03:41:PM »
Not sure if it will disappoint you to know that having never met nor spoken to the man, Stan Jones is not my mate!

Equally, my comments referred to my opinions, from experience working in a solicitor capacity. I have no idea the thought process or working role of police officers.

Maybe you would have different opinion if you had ever worked in a legal field or had experience of the workings of a solicitor.





What makes you think that I don't know about the " workings of a solicitor ?"

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2018, 03:44:PM »
I think it might just depend on the situation.






The situation being that Sheila was at peace with herself so had been able to close her eyes and go to sleep.

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2018, 03:45:PM »
This is a COMPLETE contradiction. You're with Michael Mansfield in that a person is guilty until proven innocent but Stan Jones (who had many years of experience as a police officer) was wrong for doing the very thing you applaud Mansfield for?  ::)







When did MM quote that then ?

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« Reply #57 on: July 03, 2018, 03:46:PM »
I am a little concerned also about what appears to be bruising around Sheila Caffell's neck?






The injury from the shooting.

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
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What makes you think that I don't know about the " workings of a solicitor ?"

Unless you correct me, I've made the assumption that you have never worked as a solicitor or as a barrister for that matter.

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Re: Mystery Solved - left handed Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle!
« Reply #59 on: July 03, 2018, 03:53:PM »
Unless you correct me, I've made the assumption that you have never worked as a solicitor or as a barrister for that matter.






I've been in contact with them through my job when there's been a case of litigation.