Who was Sheila's accomplice ?

[Jane]

There was NO other description-------bleeding/injured/on the floor/on a chair ?

From his position, he'd hardly have been able to see what his injuries were but as people don't normally sit like that, it was reasonable to assume that there were some.

[Jane]

Oh! FCS, Lookout!!! The guy was a POLICEMAN, not a West End hair stylist. You can 'thin' what you like, but in my, too many years to say, time as a hairdresser, a hairdressing tutor, and an examiner, I DO know what I'm talking about. It's also a given, that men of his class, never, EVER change -providing the don't loose their hair- the hairstyle they adopt in their school days. I also know the difference between hair which is blood soaked and hair which is wet. Without seeing it, I KNOW Nevill's hair to have been blood soaked. I CAN'T because I wasn't there, categorically state that it was wet from being just washed.
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So I'm right in saying that blood-soaked hair would have appeared flat to the head and not long ? Coupled with the head itself hidden inside the scuttle------why wasn't it described this way on looking inside ??

No. The beating would have splayed out the hair which was probably seen as hanging over the coal scuttle. All this would have given the illusion of there being more hair than there might have been. As for the "Why's"? I guess he wasn't too concerned about a pedant picking holes in his statement 30 odd years later.

[lookout]

From his position, he'd hardly have been able to see what his injuries were but as people don't normally sit like that, it was reasonable to assume that there were some.

Only the original files pertaining to the murder/suicide will tell us the truth about this.

[Caroline]

So I'm right in saying that blood-soaked hair would have appeared flat to the head and not long ? Coupled with the head itself hidden inside the scuttle------why wasn't it described this way on looking inside ??

No! You are NOT right. You haven't seen the picture of him so why are you trying to change the facts of it? The hair was LONG!

[lookout]

No! You are NOT right. You haven't seen the picture of him so why are you trying to change the facts of it? The hair was LONG!

I'm visualising the silhouetted pic that we have-------don't wish to see the pic in its entirety btw !!

[Caroline]

Only the original files pertaining to the murder/suicide will tell us the truth about this.

His statement is in the archives on the forum.

It seems that any evidence available here and now is denied in favour of some 'other evidence' that remains hidden. No matter what is posted to prove certain facts, there will always be the mantra that 'what really happened, is hidden'. It's like playing "I've got a secret" - a game popular with primary school kids and 9 out of 10 times, they don't really have a secret anyway.

[lookout]

His statement is in the archives on the forum.

It seems that any evidence available here and now is denied in favour of some 'other evidence' that remains hidden. No matter what is posted to prove certain facts, there will always be the mantra that 'what really happened, is hidden'. It's like playing "I've got a secret" - a game popular with primary school kids and 9 out of 10 times, they don't really have a secret anyway.

It's certainly no " secret " and I'm not treating it as such. It's called injustice !

[Caroline]

I'm visualising the silhouetted pic that we have-------don't wish to see the pic in its entirety btw !!

Good! Because I can't post it. His hair isn't long and straggly though and it's not wet. It is long and kind of bushy. Someone having a quick glance might mistake it for the curly(ish) hair of a middle-aged woman.

[Jane]

Good! Because I can't post it. His hair isn't long and straggly though and it's not wet. It is long and kind of bushy. Someone having a quick glance might mistake it for the curly(ish) hair of a middle-aged woman.

It was bushy, Caroline. It had a very strong curl which would have taken up the length somewhat but created volume.

[Caroline]

It's certainly no " secret " and I'm not treating it as such. It's called injustice !

What is? The FACT that he mistook Nevil for a woman and then corrected himself? The injustice is repeating that he lied when you have no evidence to prove he did. If he said he thought Nevil was female initially, and the logs show this and it's in his (and other raid team members statements), who are you to call him a liar?

[lookout]

Good! Because I can't post it. His hair isn't long and straggly though and it's not wet. It is long and kind of bushy. Someone having a quick glance might mistake it for the curly(ish) hair of a middle-aged woman.

What I'd meant to say is that I DON'T want to see such a pic------just so that you and others don't get the impression that I'm the " namesake " of what that " thing " on red has called me !! Disgraceful !! Anyway I still fail to see how anyone could mistake male/female with their head hidden in a scuttle if that's how he'd been found. Most newspapers of the day had said the hall but who am I to argue ?

[lookout]

--------------off outside to watch the match.

[David1819]

Only the original files pertaining to the murder/suicide will tell us the truth about this.

We already know the truth about this. PC Collins mistook Nevill’s body for that of a dead woman and reported it down the radio. While one of his colleagues made the correct observation and reported a dead male. Thus the radio receivers have the impression that one dead man and one dead woman are spotted downstairs.


Rather simple really. 

[David1819]

Show this to a stranger and ask them if its a dead old man or a dead old woman. You will get mixed results.

[Steve_uk]

I thought it was a pedal bin on fire..