Author Topic: Kitchen restaged by cops, as part of the cover up surrounding 2nd body shooting  (Read 17955 times)

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I've always maintained that there'd been a bit of a " to do " the day/night before the murders. All three adults had appeared to have sustained some sort of injury. Setting the scene for the 7th.

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Well June told a friend in advance she wasn't going to her Bible class so no mystery there. As for Sheila grappling with her parents, why weren't there any loose bits of skin from her parents under her nails or other visible signs of contact?  Sheila tying up June with a ligature would bring a wry smile to my face were the case not so serious. She was quiet at the shop in Tiptree according to Barry Parker with lipstick smudged over her face, then there was the eyewitness Michael Horsnell at Vaulty Manor, who saw June vaulting over bales of hay, with Sheila a passive bystander looking languidly on..

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Fingernails were never mentioned let alone tested as there most definitely would have been skin cells.

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Very much like a scene from a Bette Davis film with the two women.

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Very much like a scene from a Bette Davis film with the two women.

The only Bette Davis film I remember was when she was a hit-woman or something.  I remember being quite disturbed by that notion.

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I think lookout may be referring to What Ever Happened to Baby Jane.

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I've always maintained that there'd been a bit of a " to do " the day/night before the murders. All three adults had appeared to have sustained some sort of injury. Setting the scene for the 7th.

All three were involved in a grim and terrifying struggle.  Look at the mark on Sheila's throat, below her lower GSR.  Look at June's shin and chin.  Look at Nevill's arm.  Look at Sheila's right hand.  And btw Hollie, the blood peters out towards the underside of the wrist.  Work it out.

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All three were involved in a grim and terrifying struggle.  Look at the mark on Sheila's throat, below her lower GSR.  Look at June's shin and chin.  Look at Nevill's arm.  Look at Sheila's right hand.  And btw Hollie, the blood peters out towards the underside of the wrist.  Work it out.





No doubt at all that there'd been a struggle and had JB have been involved he too would have been caught up in the fracas without doubt-------------but that wasn't the case. Women are fierce in a fight.

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I've always maintained that there'd been a bit of a " to do " the day/night before the murders. All three adults had appeared to have sustained some sort of injury. Setting the scene for the 7th.

And..

Sheila had a graze mark on her stomach which was covered by a dressing!

How and when did she not only receive this injury, but somebody put a dressing upon it! Somebody obviously knows things about Sheila's injuries than they are 'not'  letting on about!
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 06:18:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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This brings us back to the statement made by PS Woodcock regarding the fact that when he entered the kitchen, the table was overturned with broken crockery on the kitchen floor, and 2 overturned chairs...

Well, forgive my skeptism, regarding the work of PS Woodcock in the kitchen that morning (at about 7.35am, onwards), and also the work done by PC Bird (2nd team of SOCO who photographed the kitchen scene after 11.00am that same morning) - the very serious question I shall keep posing is was the kitchen table overturned, or not when Woodcock shot Sheila in the kitchen?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 06:37:AM by mike tesko »
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Offline mike tesko

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Either, the claim made by PC Bird (2nd team of SOCO) that the photographs in the kitchen reflected an unisturbed scene, untouched by anybody until after he had completed taking those particular photographs which he started takking at 11.00am that morning, or PS Woodcock has lied about what he saw when he entered the kitchen at about 7.35am?

If you were PS Woodcock, how could you mistake seeing the kitchen table 'overturned' if it wasn't?

Isn't the kitchen table arguably one of the largest singular items in the kitchen, that you could make a mistake about its position and condition?

'WHAT'...
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 06:44:AM by mike tesko »
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Please refer to the 'CITATION' at the commencement of his witness statement, for clarification:-

'This statement con sisting of  '(x)' pages, each signed by him (Woodcock)...

I am sorry to have 'to point the somewhat obvious', out, 'BUT'  he didn't make 'this statement' knowing that 'if' it was tenderd into evidence that he accepts he would have been liable to prosecution, 'if' he had wilfully stated in 'it', 'ANYTHING' which he knew to 'be false', or 'did not believe to be true'...

Now, please, 'was the kitchen table OVERTURNED' when PS Woodcock entered the kitchen?

'YES', or 'NO'?

Well...

Lets get the facts absolutely accurate, so 'there can be no misunderstanding', 'no misinterpretation', 'no Error' - I ask each and everyone of you, 'WAS THE KITCHEN TABLE OVERTURNED' when PS Woodcock entered the kitchen crime scene, at about 7.35am?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 08:03:AM by mike tesko »
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If the answer to this proposition, is that the kitchen table 'WAS OVERTURNED', how does this reflect upon the testimony of PC Bird (2nd team of SOCO) who is on public record as saying that he photographed the kitchen prior to anything and everything having been moved, or touched by any police officer?

Would not each and everyone of you, agree that this 'is' a true reflection, and a true account, regarding the prosecutions case, that was 'upon to prosecute Jeremy Bamber' as the killer?

Well..

Either the kitchen table 'was OVERTURNED' when PS Woodcock entered the kitchen, or 'IT WASN'T' - you decide which version of the truth, or a lie, that 'you want to believe in', or 'to accept'...
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 01:29:PM by mike tesko »
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If the answer to this proposition, is that the kkitchen table 'WAS OVERTURNED', how does this reflect upon the testimony of PC Bird (2nd team of SOCO) who is on public record as saying that he photographed the kitchen prior to anything and everything having been moved, or touched by any police officer?

Would not each and everyone of you, agree that this 'is' a true reflection, and a true account, regarding the prosecutions case, that was 'upon to prosecute Jeremy Bamber' as the killer?

Well..

Either the kitchen table 'was OVERTURNED' when PS Woodcock entered the kitchen, or 'IT WASN'T' - you decide which version of the truth, or a lie, that 'you want to believe in', or 'to accept'...

What we are dealling with here, is a concerted attempt, by various people wityhin the CriminalJustice System, to ignore 'the true facts' in a given situation'...

Not only are we talking about a dishonest police offiicer, but we are talking about a despicable CPS, a dishonest Magistrates Court system (including dishonest Clerks of the Court), bias Crown court and appelate court judges, and the House of Lords system!!!!

The lot of these people, behave and in general perform like they are corruptreed, but,  'hey, guess what - nobody can touch us'!!!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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'ALMIGHTY GOD' did not intend for 'any human being' to have the right to behave like this - if so, 'where is the Scripture' giving 'these Criminals the appropriate auuthority to do so, and to have done so'?
« Last Edit: April 24, 2018, 08:21:AM by mike tesko »
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...