Who Killed Sheila Caffell? Part Two: Jeremy's Plan

[Luminous Wanderer]

It's in Chapter 19 of CAL's book and the exact word "zombie" is used.

OK, I'm not sure we can consider that an authoritative source however - or at least, I can't. 

[Steve_uk]

OK, I'm not sure we can consider that an authoritative source however - or at least, I can't.

It's here(page 158): https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA176&lpg=PA176&dq=Jeremy+Bamber+doctor+harris&source=bl&ots=h8JjICRjUo&sig=5Pfrr70m5aMKlnvCNud739SGf00&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw7aa0sKvaAhUEEVAKHRPzD8MQ6AEIYzAJ#v=onepage&q=Jeremy%20Bamber%20doctor%20harris&f=false

[Luminous Wanderer]

It's here(page 158): https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA176&lpg=PA176&dq=Jeremy+Bamber+doctor+harris&source=bl&ots=h8JjICRjUo&sig=5Pfrr70m5aMKlnvCNud739SGf00&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiw7aa0sKvaAhUEEVAKHRPzD8MQ6AEIYzAJ#v=onepage&q=Jeremy%20Bamber%20doctor%20harris&f=false

Thanks - I'll be sure to take a look.

[Adam]

It's in Chapter 19 of CAL's book and the exact word "zombie" is used.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8445.msg402072.html#msg402072

[Nigel]

No one has been able to give a credible explanation of how Sheila committed the massacre. Which matches the crime scene evidence.

Feel free to attempt to be the first.

Well you only need to read Sheila's Psychiatrist report to see she thought her children/family members were Possessed by the Devil.

Is that not a 'credible explanation' for the morning of the 7th with Sheila's history on record.?

[Adam]

Well you only need to read Sheila's Psychiatrist report to see she thought her children/family members were Possessed by the Devil.

Is that not a 'credible explanation' for the morning of the 7th with Sheila's history on record.?

I mean when did Nevill phone Jeremy & the police ?

When did Sheila start shooting ?

What was Sheila doing when Nevill made his phone calls ?

How did things escalate between Nevill and Sheila ?

Where was Nevill when Sheila opened fire ?

Who did Sheila open fire on ?

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Everyone knows the crime scene, body and bullet locations. So it should not be hard.

I have created a Bamber scenario which matches the crime scene.

[lebaleb]

Sheila is having a psychotic episode. She has been difficult to control and has already attacked Neville gouging his arms. She is persuaded to go back to bed but it doesn’t last long and she is up again. She finds one of the the rifles and locks herself in the bathroom. Neville gets up and tries to persuade her to go back to bed but she says she has a gun and will shoot herself if Neville doesn’t get Jeremy. Her plan is that the whole family will die.
Neville calls Jeremy and tells him to come to the house he then tries to make a follow on call to a doctor or maybe the police but before he finishes dialing he hears noises from upstairs. He drops the receiver and rushes up to the bedroom where he sees June has been shot multiple times. She has fallen out of bed but is alive. He crouches beside her. Sheila has come back into the bedroom behind Neville. She is naked apart from a pair of Neville’s socks. She comes up behind him and shoots him four times in the head and jaw. Neville is badly dazed but gets up and staggers out on to the landing and down the stairs. Sheila shoots again hitting Neville in the shoulder.
He collapses at the bottom of the stairs. His watch falling off and being dragged under the carpet as he crawls into the kitchen. He tries to reach the phone but Sheila is back. She shoots him again hitting him in the arm but then the gun is empty. Neville pulls himself to his feet. Crashes into the kitchen table when he is bludgeoned with the rifle. He is knocked unconscious and falls over some chairs. His pajamas fall down and he ends up with his head in the coal scuttle.
She decides to kill the twins but is worried they might wake up. She goes to the gun cupboard and finds the silencer and reloads the rifle. She goes upstairs and realizes that June is still alive. She has managed to get to the door but has collapsed. Sheila fires a shot to the head which kills June. She then goes and shoots the twins.
She imagines hearing Neville taunting her. She reloads the gun and shoots Neville twice more in the head. She then for some deluded reason decides to burn something onto his back. She goes back to hide in the gun cupboard. She is waiting for Jeremy but decides to shoot herself. She can’t manage it and so takes off the silencer and drops it in the box.
She realizes that she is having her period and feels dirty. She goes to the bathroom and showers. After that she puts on a tampon. She goes back upstairs and dons a clean nightie. She decides to read the Bible in preparation for her death. The Bible she knows is in the main bedroom.
She sits on the floor leaning against the bedside cabinet. She reads some passages and then shoots herself in the neck. She waits but doesn’t die. Blood drips onto the Bible and runs down onto the nightdress. She shuffles forward ruffing up the back of her nightdress. Puts the Bible on her chest and shoots herself again. She slumps back and the Bible falls off onto the floor.

[Steve_uk]

Sheila is having a psychotic episode. She has been difficult to control and has already attacked Neville gouging his arms. She is persuaded to go back to bed but it doesn’t last long and she is up again. She finds one of the the rifles and locks herself in the bathroom. Neville gets up and tries to persuade her to go back to bed but she says she has a gun and will shoot herself if Neville doesn’t get Jeremy. Her plan is that the whole family will die.
Neville calls Jeremy and tells him to come to the house he then tries to make a follow on call to a doctor or maybe the police but before he finishes dialing he hears noises from upstairs. He drops the receiver and rushes up to the bedroom where he sees June has been shot multiple times. She has fallen out of bed but is alive. He crouches beside her. Sheila has come back into the bedroom behind Neville. She is naked apart from a pair of Neville’s socks. She comes up behind him and shoots him four times in the head and jaw. Neville is badly dazed but gets up and staggers out on to the landing and down the stairs. Sheila shoots again hitting Neville in the shoulder.
He collapses at the bottom of the stairs. His watch falling off and being dragged under the carpet as he crawls into the kitchen. He tries to reach the phone but Sheila is back. She shoots him again hitting him in the arm but then the gun is empty. Neville pulls himself to his feet. Crashes into the kitchen table when he is bludgeoned with the rifle. He is knocked unconscious and falls over some chairs. His pajamas fall down and he ends up with his head in the coal scuttle.
She decides to kill the twins but is worried they might wake up. She goes to the gun cupboard and finds the silencer and reloads the rifle. She goes upstairs and realizes that June is still alive. She has managed to get to the door but has collapsed. Sheila fires a shot to the head which kills June. She then goes and shoots the twins.
She imagines hearing Neville taunting her. She reloads the gun and shoots Neville twice more in the head. She then for some deluded reason decides to burn something onto his back. She goes back to hide in the gun cupboard. She is waiting for Jeremy but decides to shoot herself. She can’t manage it and so takes off the silencer and drops it in the box.
She realizes that she is having her period and feels dirty. She goes to the bathroom and showers. After that she puts on a tampon. She goes back upstairs and dons a clean nightie. She decides to read the Bible in preparation for her death. The Bible she knows is in the main bedroom.
She sits on the floor leaning against the bedside cabinet. She reads some passages and then shoots herself in the neck. She waits but doesn’t die. Blood drips onto the Bible and runs down onto the nightdress. She shuffles forward ruffing up the back of her nightdress. Puts the Bible on her chest and shoots herself again. She slumps back and the Bible falls off onto the floor.

This is a work of fiction courtesy of Simon & Schuster UK Ltd..

[Nigel]

Sheila is having a psychotic episode. She has been difficult to control and has already attacked Neville gouging his arms. She is persuaded to go back to bed but it doesn’t last long and she is up again. She finds one of the the rifles and locks herself in the bathroom. Neville gets up and tries to persuade her to go back to bed but she says she has a gun and will shoot herself if Neville doesn’t get Jeremy. Her plan is that the whole family will die.
Neville calls Jeremy and tells him to come to the house he then tries to make a follow on call to a doctor or maybe the police but before he finishes dialing he hears noises from upstairs. He drops the receiver and rushes up to the bedroom where he sees June has been shot multiple times. She has fallen out of bed but is alive. He crouches beside her. Sheila has come back into the bedroom behind Neville. She is naked apart from a pair of Neville’s socks. She comes up behind him and shoots him four times in the head and jaw. Neville is badly dazed but gets up and staggers out on to the landing and down the stairs. Sheila shoots again hitting Neville in the shoulder.
He collapses at the bottom of the stairs. His watch falling off and being dragged under the carpet as he crawls into the kitchen. He tries to reach the phone but Sheila is back. She shoots him again hitting him in the arm but then the gun is empty. Neville pulls himself to his feet. Crashes into the kitchen table when he is bludgeoned with the rifle. He is knocked unconscious and falls over some chairs. His pajamas fall down and he ends up with his head in the coal scuttle.
She decides to kill the twins but is worried they might wake up. She goes to the gun cupboard and finds the silencer and reloads the rifle. She goes upstairs and realizes that June is still alive. She has managed to get to the door but has collapsed. Sheila fires a shot to the head which kills June. She then goes and shoots the twins.
She imagines hearing Neville taunting her. She reloads the gun and shoots Neville twice more in the head. She then for some deluded reason decides to burn something onto his back. She goes back to hide in the gun cupboard. She is waiting for Jeremy but decides to shoot herself. She can’t manage it and so takes off the silencer and drops it in the box.
She realizes that she is having her period and feels dirty. She goes to the bathroom and showers. After that she puts on a tampon. She goes back upstairs and dons a clean nightie. She decides to read the Bible in preparation for her death. The Bible she knows is in the main bedroom.
She sits on the floor leaning against the bedside cabinet. She reads some passages and then shoots herself in the neck. She waits but doesn’t die. Blood drips onto the Bible and runs down onto the nightdress. She shuffles forward ruffing up the back of her nightdress. Puts the Bible on her chest and shoots herself again. She slumps back and the Bible falls off onto the floor.

I agree with most of this as a strong possibility.

Importantly, I do believe there was more than one rifle used, I will stake my life on this..

[lebaleb]

This is a work of fiction courtesy of Simon & Schuster UK Ltd..

It was a reply to Adam’s challenge to write a scenario that showed Sheila committed the murders while fitting the evidence.
His claim that she was heavily sedated is erroneous. Dr Angelou was asked by Sheila to reduce the dose of Halpol because of sleepiness. She ordered a reduction of 50mg. Her assistant only gave 100mg.

[lookout]

I've always thought that two rifles had been in use.

[Steve_uk]

It was a reply to Adam’s challenge to write a scenario that showed Sheila committed the murders while fitting the evidence.
His claim that she was heavily sedated is erroneous. Dr Angelou was asked by Sheila to reduce the dose of Halpol because of sleepiness. She ordered a reduction of 50mg. Her assistant only gave 100mg.

It falls at the first sentence because Sheila was never difficult to control. She was her own worst enemy.

[Nigel]

I've always thought that two rifles had been in use.

Anthony Pargeter's rifle and Neville Bamber's rifle? = 2 rifles?

[lookout]

Anthony Pargeter's rifle and Neville Bamber's rifle? = 2 rifles?

Yes.

[Nigel]

Yes.

My God, that is the darkness, that shows the Light.