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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Possible interpretation of the upper neck wound
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2018, 03:56:PM »
Yes, but wouldn't that be obvious to anybody who arrived on the scene later?  Surely that would be reported somewhere in the documents?

It's also difficult to believe Sheila could have thought things through like this if it was a murder-suicide scenario.  She was, presumably, a disorganised affective psychotic running amok: the idea of sophisticated planning is inimical to such a mindset.
Yes it depends on your opinion or knowledge of the psychosis involved. Lookout may have something to say on the subject.

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Re: Possible interpretation of the upper neck wound
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2018, 04:05:PM »
Yes it depends on your opinion or knowledge of the psychosis involved. Lookout may have something to say on the subject.

Having reflected on it a bit more, maybe should would have cleaned herself up, but it does leave open the question of the incriminating clothes.  There had to be some signature of disposal, they can't be just made to disappear by magic. 

I am looking at this from the point-of-view of an appeal.  I doubt the judges would accept an assertion based on Sheila's likely state of mind in a hypothetical that she did it, and that being the case, the lack of traces of a struggle on the nightdress looks incriminating for Bamber.
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Re: Possible interpretation of the upper neck wound
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2018, 05:02:PM »
Yes it depends on your opinion or knowledge of the psychosis involved. Lookout may have something to say on the subject.





Which is why I had doubts about JB having been the killer in the first place. I know how strong sick women are during a psychotic episode---------even medicated ones. The "voices " that they hear are very real to them,as are the hallucinations,etc that they experience.

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Re: Possible interpretation of the upper neck wound
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2018, 05:02:PM »
Having reflected on it a bit more, maybe should would have cleaned herself up, but it does leave open the question of the incriminating clothes.  There had to be some signature of disposal, they can't be just made to disappear by magic. 

I am looking at this from the point-of-view of an appeal.  I doubt the judges would accept an assertion based on Sheila's likely state of mind in a hypothetical that she did it, and that being the case, the lack of traces of a struggle on the nightdress looks incriminating for Bamber.

There was no struggle. Or at the very most it was a one-sided "struggle"

Here is why.

Nevil being unable to use his left arm after being shot upstairs.



Nevil only having a short time left to live after being shot upstairs.



Pathologist not surprised about Sheila inflicting the injuries the Nevil.



Most of the mess caused by the police.



Scratch marks created at a later date.

https://streamable.com/qnr5d



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Re: Possible interpretation of the upper neck wound
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2018, 05:46:PM »
JB would not have left WHF unscathed if it had been him as the murderer. At the least,his father would definitely have left his mark on him in some way but because it had been a woman,Sheila,Nevill would have been less likely to have landed out.

Judging by the many reports of JB having had his father in tears and not being the perfect son etc, you'd have thought that Nevill would have been well prepared for any eventuality that occurred involving JB ??
At well over 6ft and a well-built man it's rather surprising that Nevill,who'd been in the forces and well versed with " the enemy " wasn't on his guard ? Such as the removal of all guns and secured in a tightly locked cupboard/cabinet for a start.