Is there a budding Sir Patrick Moore or Brian May out there?

[Nigel]

Trying to get position of The Moon in the Sky 3.15am to 7.30am in relation to North of WHF

Anyone help?

Thanks

[Nigel]

Moon phase: 4.44am


https://www.mooncalc.org/#/51.7704,0.7936,13/2018.03.11/05:43/1/0

[Nigel]

go to 3min 30 sec

https://youtu.be/yPRd912xv9M

"Trick Of The Light"

[Nigel]

North / South....scroll right for Compass.

[Nigel]

Could the location of the Moon have caused a refection on Window 'Upper right' back of Farm House? aka "Trick of The Light'.

On plan above this is bottom left room 'Box Room'.


If if could not then there was movement in Farm House at approximately 4.44am

[Nigel]

Is there a budding Sir Patrick Moore out there?

[Nigel]

Exact location White House farm arrowed:

[mike tesko]

Could the location of the Moon have caused a refection on Window 'Upper right' back of Farm House? aka "Trick of The Light'.

On plan above this is bottom left room 'Parent's Bedroom'.


If if could not then there was movement in Farm House at approximately 4.44am

The sighting of the figure standing, and then moving about at the window occurred at approximately 4.00am - 4.02am...

[mike tesko]

go to 3min 30 sec

https://youtu.be/yPRd912xv9M

"Trick Of The Light"

Bews refers to the first floor window top right as they were looking at the window, which was Sheila Caffell's bedroom, whereas Jeremy told me the figure he saw, and which he thought PC Myall and PS Bews were looking at was the figure at and in his parents bedroom window, which would have been top left of the building as viewed by Bews, Myall, and Jeremy!

This is very interesting since it implies or suggests that someone moved from behind the window in Sheila Caffell's bedroom, to the window of the parents bedroom, at a time when Jeremy was outside with the police! Only the upstairs landing separates Sheila's bedroom from the parents bedroom! It is also interesting that blood from one or more of the victims was found on the landing carpet outside Sheila's bedroom!

[mike tesko]

Bews refers to the first floor window top right as they were looking at the window, which was Sheila Caffell's bedroom, whereas Jeremy told me the figure he saw, and which he thought PC Myall and PS Bews were looking at was the figure at and in his parents bedroom window, which would have been top left of the building as viewed by Bews, Myall, and Jeremy!

This is very interesting since it implies or suggests that someone moved from behind the window in Sheila Caffell's bedroom, to the window of the parents bedroom, at a time when Jeremy was outside with the police! Only the upstairs landing separates Sheila's bedroom from the parents bedroom! It is also interesting that blood from one or more of the victims was found on the landing carpet outside Sheila's bedroom!

What also becomes clear, is that it was PC Myall who first drew attention to movement at one of the first floor windows, but that PC Myall himself has never drawn attention to what he thought he had seen, or indeed, which first floor window he had seen the original movement! We only have Bews account, and he conveniently shifts the incident to Sheila Caffell's bedroom window, whilst Jeremy is observing the figure at his parents bedroom window, standing there at first to the right hand edge, and then walking across the full opening of his parents bedroom window (from right to left as viewed by him) as though whoever it was had gone around his parents bed towards the door which led into the box room window, where much later on, WPC Jeapes' spotted the rifle leaning there!

[mike tesko]

What also becomes clear, is that it was PC Myall who first drew attention to movement at one of the first floor windows, but that PC Myall himself has never drawn attention to what he thought he had seen, or indeed, which first floor window he had seen the original movement! We only have Bews account, and he conveniently shifts the incident to Sheila Caffell's bedroom window, whilst Jeremy is observing the figure at his parents bedroom window, standing there at first to the right hand edge, and then walking across the full opening of his parents bedroom window (from right to left as viewed by him) as though whoever it was had gone around his parents bed towards the door which led into the box room window, where much later on, WPC Jeapes' spotted the rifle leaning there!

For all anybody knows, a trick of light could have given an impression that there was movement at Sheila Caffell's bedroom window (that night), but there is no evidence that what PC Myall and Jeremy saw (movement of a figure) was movement at Sheila Caffell's bedroom window! Jeremy is adamant that the figure they were observing was the person at his parents bedroom window, he thought that the other two officers were observing the same figure at the same window, when we now discover, as I say, that Bews displaces the 'trick of light' explanation against the wrong first floor window!

[Nigel]

The sighting of the figure standing, and then moving about at the window occurred at approximately 4.00am - 4.02am...

04.01am exact location

https://www.mooncalc.org/#/51.8564,0.7885,15/1985.08.07/04:01/1/2

[Nigel]

Bews refers to the first floor window top right as they were looking at the window, which was Sheila Caffell's bedroom, whereas Jeremy told me the figure he saw, and which he thought PC Myall and PS Bews were looking at was the figure at and in his parents bedroom window, which would have been top left of the building as viewed by Bews, Myall, and Jeremy!

This is very interesting since it implies or suggests that someone moved from behind the window in Sheila Caffell's bedroom, to the window of the parents bedroom, at a time when Jeremy was outside with the police! Only the upstairs landing separates Sheila's bedroom from the parents bedroom! It is also interesting that blood from one or more of the victims was found on the landing carpet outside Sheila's bedroom!

Assuming top right is correct, then it would tally with floor plan, see above left hand side.

He did say "back of house" in video ie not Front.

[mike tesko]

It's really astonishing that after all this time, I never understood why PS Bews was saying what he was saying about the 'trick of light' at one of the first floor windows, when Jeremy's version of what they saw was so clear and precise, but now thanks to Nigel's prompting, I know exactly what has happened now - Bews was talking about a 'trick of light' at the wrong first floor window (Sheila Caffell's bedroom window, top right as viewed by himself), whereas Jeremy (and perhaps PC Myall) were looking and observing the movement of the figure at the first floor window (the parents bedroom)...

Nobody picked up on this at trial, or since...

Until now!

[Nigel]

ie behind red rectangle