Questions on the apparent red toe nail polish in the kitchen.

[Caroline]

Is why she then removed it and carried on with a more manageable rifle.

So, to use it (as it wasn't on the rifle when Jeremy used it), she would have to know that that rifle had a silencer and know where to look for it. So, she somehow magically finds the silencer and uses it to kill four people BUT, the rifle is now too long to shoot herself so she removes it and takes it back to the cupboard before going back to shoot herself - really?

[Jane]

So, to use it (as it wasn't on the rifle when Jeremy used it), she would have to know that that rifle had a silencer and know where to look for it. So, she somehow magically finds the silencer and uses it to kill four people BUT, the rifle is now too long to shoot herself so she removes it and takes it back to the cupboard before going back to shoot herself - really?

So she actually tries to shoot herself THREE times before she's successful? She didn't give up, did she?

[lookout]

So, to use it (as it wasn't on the rifle when Jeremy used it), she would have to know that that rifle had a silencer and know where to look for it. So, she somehow magically finds the silencer and uses it to kill four people BUT, the rifle is now too long to shoot herself so she removes it and takes it back to the cupboard before going back to shoot herself - really?

I always thought that the silencer was already in-situ when left by JB ?

Your description of what I thought is way out. Apart from the fact that you don't listen/read my posts properly i.e. I didn't say she put the silencer back in the cupboard nor did I say she'd shot 4 people before doing so. I don't know why you've posted in this manner at all.

[David1819]

The fact that Suthurst saw at least one flake could mean that there was more. We obviously haven't seen all of the CS pictures and the kitchen was cleaned prior to Jeremy becoming a suspect. I'm really not 100% sure that the scatches were present on the moring after the murders but it it certainly possible.

I have seen the photo of the entire carpet area, there is only one bit there. And to my eyes that flake is slightly pink also.

[David1819]

The scratches were probably present------it's just that they'd been overlooked along with the silencer.

Lookout

You don’t believe Sheila was a schizophrenic. You don’t believe Sheila was religious. And you believe the sound moderator was involved in the crime.

Yet you believe Sheila done it. 

[lookout]

Lookout

You don’t believe Sheila was a schizophrenic. You don’t believe Sheila was religious. And you believe the sound moderator was involved in the crime.

Yet you believe Sheila done it. 

I don't believe schizophrenia had been the right diagnosis,as having a bad temper kills more people than being schizophrenic and Sheila had had a temper. More a personality disorder.
I don't believe that the moderator was used in the killings.
I said that Sheila had tried putting the thing on the rifle but got it cross-threaded deeming it useless for what it was intended for and because of its unsteady state,marked the fireplace. It would have been used to bash her father with.
99.9% sure of it having been Sheila------------JB had NO part in the killings.
Sheila had not been religious.She'd been brainwashed and so emulated her mother.

[Adam]

I don't believe schizophrenia had been the right diagnosis,as having a bad temper kills more people than being schizophrenic and Sheila had had a temper. More a personality disorder.
I don't believe that the moderator was used in the killings.
I said that Sheila had tried putting the thing on the rifle but got it cross-threaded deeming it useless for what it was intended for and because of its unsteady state,marked the fireplace. It would have been used to bash her father with.
99.9% sure of it having been Sheila------------JB had NO part in the killings.
Sheila had not been religious.She'd been brainwashed and so emulated her mother.

You previously said Sheila took the silencer off half way through the massacre. Which is how her blood got into it. Although at this time she wasn't bleeding. Have you changed you're mind ?

Why would Sheila try to put the silencer on before the massacre. Nevill was already up ?

How do you believe Sheila's nail polish ended up underneath the aga scratches ?

Do you believe the pathologist & crime scene officers missed Sheila's missing  polish from her toe nail & the polish on the carpet ?

It's a good job the CT noticed in 2010. Thanks to Peter Sutherst. 

[lookout]

You previously said Sheila took the silencer off half way through the massacre. Which is how her blood got into it. Although at this time she wasn't bleeding. Have you changed you're mind ?

Why would Sheila try to put the silencer on before the massacre. Nevill was already up ?

How do you believe Sheila's nail polish ended up underneath the aga scratches ?

Do you believe the pathologist & crime scene officers missed Sheila's missing  polish from her toe nail & the polish on the carpet ?

It's a good job the CT noticed in 2010. Thanks to Peter Sutherst.

Sheila's blood would easily have transferred onto the silencer through handling. I'm not giving up yet as to how or where her blood came from ( if it had been hers ) but a wound on the lower abdomen could explain,something that we know nothing about. An injury she did that night ? We don't know,but it was well covered and not just with a plaster.

How would I know if her toenail ended up " underneath the Aga scratches ?" What a stupid question.

It would seem that EP and the CSO's  missed a few things.

[Adam]

Sheila's blood would easily have transferred onto the silencer through handling. I'm not giving up yet as to how or where her blood came from ( if it had been hers ) but a wound on the lower abdomen could explain,something that we know nothing about. An injury she did that night ? We don't know,but it was well covered and not just with a plaster.

How would I know if her toenail ended up " underneath the Aga scratches ?" What a stupid question.

It would seem that EP and the CSO's  missed a few things.

Don't give stupid answers.

I asked how do you think her toe nail polish ended up underneath the aga scratches. You give you're opinions on everything else.

Only Sutherst has given 1 in a million suggestion. If you have no suggestion and believe the CT is wrong, just say. It doesn't make Bamber guilty.

The blood in the silencer could have come from a wound on her lower abdomen. Don't say the pathologist missed that as well.

[David1819]

Sheila had not been religious.She'd been brainwashed and so emulated her mother.

She was by her own admission religious.  In her own words she writes that she let god into her life.

How can you refute this?   

[lookout]

As said by a very confused young woman !

[lookout]

Was it to appease her mother ?

[lookout]

Colin had been scared that his sons would be affected like their mother was with Junes religious mania !

[Jane]

As said by a very confused young woman !

Nonetheless, she must be allowed to own those words. It's not ours to suggest she didn't believe every word she said. If we go down that road, we may be saying that she was lying.

[lookout]

Nonetheless, she must be allowed to own those words. It's not ours to suggest she didn't believe every word she said. If we go down that road, we may be saying that she was lying.

Do you have to include " lying " ? That word never entered my head as my word would have been controlling/under the " spell " of her mother's psychological abuse.