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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2018, 06:24:PM »
As a matter of interest,has anyone heard/seen any comment/s of late from the authors of such as the above and all the rest of the anti-Bamber crew who wrote damning words against JB ? Or have they all scarpered until the real truth surfaces,then they'll have the cheek to tell the opposite of what they originally wrote. I can imagine Woffinden making a quick U-turn---again.

Why would they have any comments - on what?
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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 06:50:PM »
Why would they have any comments - on what?







In regard to the " publicity " on Twitter contradicting various statements etc. These authors have remained silent with nobody fighting back about what THEY'VE written as having been gospel to them.

I'm sure if I'd have taken the time and effort in writing a book with what I'd imagined as fact,then others turned up with entirely different versions,I'd be having something to say even if I said they were all talking through their hat,that their book was more accurate than anything said on Twitter.
The fact is,nobody has come forward to dispute what the CT team are doing or have posted. Why ?   

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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2018, 06:55:PM »






In regard to the " publicity " on Twitter contradicting various statements etc. These authors have remained silent with nobody fighting back about what THEY'VE written as having been gospel to them.

I'm sure if I'd have taken the time and effort in writing a book with what I'd imagined as fact,then others turned up with entirely different versions,I'd be having something to say even if I said they were all talking through their hat,that their book was more accurate than anything said on Twitter.
The fact is,nobody has come forward to dispute what the CT team are doing or have posted. Why ?
Who wrote one of the major books claiming Bamber was innocent? To my mind they all have a guilty slant apart from Scott Lomax, and isn't he just an academic writing for whatever cause that will bring him the most money?

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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2018, 07:01:PM »
Who wrote one of the major books claiming Bamber was innocent? To my mind they all have a guilty slant apart from Scott Lomax, and isn't he just an academic writing for whatever cause that will bring him the most money?






Well none of them are so vocal now are they ?

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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2018, 07:10:PM »





Well none of them are so vocal now are they ?
I always have the feeling with these people that it's just another case to them, with the possible exception of Carol Ann Lee, who at least kept contact with Bamber by post for years. Maybe it's a good thing they don't get too emotionally involved.
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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2018, 07:21:PM »
As a matter of interest,has anyone heard/seen any comment/s of late from the authors of such as the above and all the rest of the anti-Bamber crew who wrote damning words against JB ? Or have they all scarpered until the real truth surfaces,then they'll have the cheek to tell the opposite of what they originally wrote. I can imagine Woffinden making a quick U-turn---again.

the auther of above was anon so weather they commented or not is unknown.

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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2018, 07:33:PM »






In regard to the " publicity " on Twitter contradicting various statements etc. These authors have remained silent with nobody fighting back about what THEY'VE written as having been gospel to them.

I'm sure if I'd have taken the time and effort in writing a book with what I'd imagined as fact,then others turned up with entirely different versions,I'd be having something to say even if I said they were all talking through their hat,that their book was more accurate than anything said on Twitter.
The fact is,nobody has come forward to dispute what the CT team are doing or have posted. Why ?

Because they have heard it all before and really don't believe anything the CT say.
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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2018, 12:37:AM »
That blog's not even anymore and hasn't been for a while. How are we supposed to comment on it?
It has moved to here.

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2018, 12:44:AM »
that blogs not even anymore and hasn't been for a while how are we supposed to coment on it.

My link takes you to the whole article on the 'Miscarriges of Justice' forum.
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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2018, 01:09:AM »
As a matter of interest,has anyone heard/seen any comment/s of late from the authors of such as the above and all the rest of the anti-Bamber crew who wrote damning words against JB ? Or have they all scarpered until the real truth surfaces,then they'll have the cheek to tell the opposite of what they originally wrote. I can imagine Woffinden making a quick U-turn---again.

People like Mckinstry & Woffinden have commented on the case since writing their articles. Woffinden in a documentary, Mckinstry on a radio phone in.

Bamber contacted Woffinden & Woffinden was seduced by Bamber's charm, later calling him a 'charming psychopath' in the documentary. He first wrote an article asking is Bamber innocent ? Which is not surprising as he specialises in looking at possible MOJ's. Then changed his mind to guilty when looking at the evidence.

It's doubtful Mckinsty ever believed Bamber was innocent. He is a hardcore guilter.

The author of 'Crime, heart & coronets' went into the case looking for a miscarriage of justice. But just became more certain of Bamber's guilt after looking at the evidence.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2018, 08:57:AM »
There is nothing,that I see,to describe JB as " charming ". No way is he your descriptive psychopath or a psychopath at all. They're NOT like him I can assure you. Nothing about him was " charming " . As a youth/young man he was immature and tried to be something that he wasn't and it showed. 

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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2018, 02:23:PM »
Reply 25 is probably the most accurate assessment of him the poster has ever made. I believe many of those of the older generation ever beheld him as being an obnoxious little prig. I think most of his male peer group beheld him as a full of himself pain in the 'rs' and braggart who they'd rather not have as a friend, but was always ready to flash the cash. The numerous girls whose knickers he managed to charm his way into would probably see a different side to him.

I would add that psychopaths, like the rest of us, come in different shapes and sizes. Luckily, for them, they don't have "Psychopath" emblazoned across their brows or anywhere else, which is why they're not easily recognized until AFTER they've successfully pulled wool over our eyes. SOME psychopaths won't appear to be like Jeremy -they won't have had the advantages he had, for starters- others, with or without those advantages, will appear to be exactly like him. Their common denominator is that the nearest thing they have to empathy or soul is pretense.
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Re: 'Crime, hearts & coronets'. How accurrate was it ?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2018, 04:58:PM »
all ive seen from wolfingon is one article wich I know he didn't write he just sighed  hes name to it Richard Webster wrote it.


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« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2021, 09:03:PM »
People like Mckinstry & Woffinden have commented on the case since writing their articles. Woffinden in a documentary, Mckinstry on a radio phone in.

Bamber contacted Woffinden & Woffinden was seduced by Bamber's charm, later calling him a 'charming psychopath' in the documentary. He first wrote an article asking is Bamber innocent ? Which is not surprising as he specialises in looking at possible MOJ's. Then changed his mind to guilty when looking at the evidence.

It's doubtful Mckinsty ever believed Bamber was innocent. He is a hardcore guilter.

The author of 'Crime, heart & coronets' went into the case looking for a miscarriage of justice. But just became more certain of Bamber's guilt after looking at the evidence.

What this means is that either Jeremy is a psychopath or Bob Woffinden was.