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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2018, 09:58:AM »
Not only did Pamela Boutflour 'think that Sheila' was behaving 'strangely', but her sister June Bamber, had told Pamela that 'she was worried' about Sheila's health!!!

However, there was no sense of urgency. June, didn't, for instance, ask Pam if she could 'drop by' the following day to assess Sheila. The (lunch) visit to Pam was not arranged for the next day (Wednesday), but for the following day (Thursday) They also spoke of other "family matters".

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« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2018, 10:07:AM »
However, there was no sense of urgency. June, didn't, for instance, ask Pam if she could 'drop by' the following day to assess Sheila. The (lunch) visit to Pam was not arranged for the next day (Wednesday), but for the following day (Thursday) They also spoke of other "family matters".

Sheila was behaving strangely, and June was worried about Sheila's health, there was talk about Sheila taking a holiday on her own because she had no interest in the twins, or house work, exactly how Collin Caffell described Sheila in his letter to Neville Bamber - what we are ddealing with here is a cover up of the truth...

Crooked cops, crooked DPP, and its supporters, ought to hang their heads in shame - better still, hang the lot of them publickly, lets bring back the stocks and throw rotten fruit and vegetables at the lot of them, and shit which is what the prosecutions case against Jeremy Bmaber was and is...
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2018, 10:13:AM »
Sheila Caffell was a very disturbed individual, in one way or another, recognised by all those close to her! She certainly was / is responsible for the killing of the other four victims, but alas she did not shoot herself dead on the main bedroom floor, and if she did (but she didn't) the rifle from the box room window had to be taken / brought into the main bedroom after the raid team entered the farmhouse...

How could Jeremy Bamber possibly have had any involvement in that event?

Could someone please educate me on how it was possible for Jeremy to bring the rifle from the box room window at some stage after Jeapes and Brown had seen that rifle there at the box room window?

I look forward to being educated by all those in the know, so to speak, please rush your replies to me here so that I may be silenced for trying to get to the truth...


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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2018, 10:15:AM »
Hang on a minute, these legal scoundrels tampered withy the contents of a witness statement, a decision that had nothing to do with Pamela Boutflouyrs own free will, exactly what the South Yorkshire police scoundrels did in the Hillsboro' disaster cover up!

It is not acceptable tyo defende these crimeinals in wigs, and gowns and uniforms for this sort of criminalised activity...

'Bring back public hangings' just for these scoundrels, and anybody who supports these atrocious activities, they are a disgrace to the system which calls itself the criminal justice system, what a rotten lot these people in all their disguises truly are...

No excuses...

They are criminals, who bend and twist to the law of this land to suit thier purpose...

Fucking evil, vile, rotten, scumbags...


You know, Mike, I'm sometimes forced to ask myself exactly WHAT is your intention here. IS it that you totally and without reservation believe Jeremy is innocent, OR is it just that a 'questionable' case has provided a loophole for you to expound your own UNquestionable hatred of anything connected to the law and judiciary of this country? Sadly, it often works that the more personal a 'quest' becomes, the less altruistic it appears to be.

As an aside, I feel perfectly certain that Pam was far too intelligent a woman to assume that the words she spoke would be written in a way which exactly conveyed the meaning she intended, without reading them through for herself. With MANY witness's, it could well have been a case of close enough being good enough.

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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2018, 10:19:AM »
Sheila was behaving starngely, and June was worried about Sheila's health, there was talk about Sheila taking a holiday on her own because she had no interest in the twins, or house work, exactly how Collin Caffell described Sheila in his letter to Neville Bamber - what we are ddealing with here is a cover up of the truth...

Crooked cops, crooked DPP, and its supporters, ought to hang their heads in shame - better still, hang the lot of them publickly, lets bring back the stocks and throw rotten fruit and vegetables at the lot of them, and shit which is what the prosecutions case against Jeremy Bmaber was and is...


WHO is denying that was so? WHERE have your -alleged- "crooked cops, crooked DPP, and it's supporters" ever sought to say otherwise? All they've done is recognize that being mentally ill doesn't equate with a person being a murderer.

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« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2018, 10:22:AM »

You know, Mike, I'm sometimes forced to ask myself exactly WHAT is your intention here. IS it that you totally and without reservation believe Jeremy is innocent, OR is it just that a 'questionable' case has provided a loophole for you to expound your own UNquestionable hatred of anything connected to the law and judiciary of this country? Sadly, it often works that the more personal a 'quest' becomes, the less altruistic it appears to be.

As an aside, I feel perfectly certain that Pam was far too intelligent a woman to assume that the words she spoke would be written in a way which exactly conveyed the meaning she intended, without reading them through for herself. With MANY witness's, it could well have been a case of close enough being good enough.

You have never been a victim of an injustice, so I don't expect you to know anything about legalised dishonesty and forgery by these criminals in wigs and gowns who think they are more honest than the victims they help to frame and convict...

These crooked morons need to be prosecuted when there is clear evidence that they have fabricated, edited, forged and decieved whatever it is they did or have done - they are a lower life form than many of the innocent people they convict by adipting these dishonest tactics...

They are fallen angels, devils in other words....

Part of the system designed to look after the favoured few amongst us...

So, please, tell us about your own miscarriage of justice, how the system stitched you up,  and how this crime impacted upon your own life?
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2018, 10:36:AM »
A lie, a forgery, a deception, an edit, a fabrication, a manipulation, a swap, it is all part of the system 'they' use to convict innocent victims...
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2018, 10:41:AM »
You have never been a victim of an injustice, so I don't expect you to know anything about legalised dishonesty and forgery by these criminals in wigs and gowns who think they are more honest than the victims they help to frame and convict...

These crooked morons need to be prosecuted when there is clear evidence that they have fabricated, edited, forged and decieved whatever it is they did or have done - they are a lower life form than many of the innocent people they convict by adipting these dishonest tactics...

They are fallen angels, devils in other words....

Part of the system designed to look after the favoured few amongst us...

So, please, tell us about your own miscarriage of justice, how the system stitched you up,  and how this crime impacted upon your own life?


Mike, you have NO idea what miscarriages of justice have been suffered by others. You have no idea  what they've caused others to live with -how it's changed the course of where their lives may have gone. We ALL have a tendency to believe we're alone with whatever life has thrown at us. I had a HUGE 'MOJ' done to me. Absolutely and unequivocally NO fault of my own. There is no redress. I have no choice than to live with the consequences. I COULD say "Poor me" but it would change nothing. There are MANY in the same position as I. Why? Coz just like you claim you've been, we were in the wrong place at the wrong time. WE broke no laws, but we paid for the moral laws considered to have been broken by others.

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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2018, 10:44:AM »
A lie, a forgery, a deception, an edit, a fabrication, a manipulation, a swap, it is all part of the system 'they' use to convict innocent victims...

All of these features leave everlasting scars in the lives of the victims the system convicts and sentences victims of miscarriages of justice - why would such a victim who has had their life altered detrimentally by such lies, forgeries, deceptions, editing, fabrications, manipulations and swaps, suddenly forget the injustice that has been worked on them, suddenly become a so called law abiding citizen when they were always a law abiding citizen in the first instance! It's all aload of codswallop! The law is interpreted differently for different people! It's complete bollocks!!
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2018, 10:52:AM »

Mike, you have NO idea what miscarriages of justice have been suffered by others. You have no idea  what they've caused others to live with -how it's changed the course of where their lives may have gone. We ALL have a tendency to believe we're alone with whatever life has thrown at us. I had a HUGE 'MOJ' done to me. Absolutely and unequivocally NO fault of my own. There is no redress. I have no choice than to live with the consequences. I COULD say "Poor me" but it would change nothing. There are MANY in the same position as I. Why? Coz just like you claim you've been, we were in the wrong place at the wrong time. WE broke no laws, but we paid for the moral laws considered to have been broken by others.

Ok, that being the case, why is it that you cannot bring yourself to accept that 'a dodgy case' has been brought against Jeremy Bamber, in the prosecution of him?

Victims of MOJ should be sympathetic to other cases involving other people who claim that they have been wrongly accused, prosecuted, and convicted of something, which they declare for whatever reason that they did not do, or were not involved in...

It's not a case of crying 'poor me', at all, its a case of giving someone the benefit of doubt, until you come up against evidence which can only lead to the inevitable conclusion that what this person has said, or what this person is saying, cannot possibly be true! In Jeremy Bambers case, based on my experiences with the criminal Justice system I have not yet come up against or been challenged by, any evidence which means that he did kill his family (including Sheila)! In fact, the contrary is true, everything points to 'Sheila having shot the other four victims', and the cops having involvement in her death, and the stage managing of her death scene, on the bedroom floor!
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2018, 11:04:AM »
The other aspect of any case, obviously rests upon the proviso - (a) did the accused commit the offence, and, or (b) is there evidence to prove that the accused committed the offence?
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2018, 11:11:AM »
The other aspect of any case, obviously rests upon the proviso - (a) did the accused commit the offence, and, or (b) is there evidence to prove that the accused committed the offence?

For anyone to say, or to suggest, that I have no idea whether or not anyone has suffered a MOJ, or not, is not entirely true! Because in the first instance, I have aided hundreds of prisoners, and individuals, in such cases! Many of the alleged MOJ have turned to be justified in the sense, from my experiences (a) I believe that they did commit the offence, or had involvement in the commissioning of the offence, and or, (b) there was evidence to prove that they had committed the offence, of had been involved in one form or another, in the commissioning of such an offence convicted of...

However, I do not profess to know whether or not a person committed an offence, if that person does not confide in me the truth, and or, answers any question I may ask of them...

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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2018, 11:20:AM »
I am 62 years old (next Birthday), and I would like to believe and I think that during my involvement in one form or another with the Criminal Justice System, and the 'players' involved in the running of that system, that I know whether or not someone is trying to 'pull the wool' over anyones eyes...

For the benefit of doubt, I should just say without naming names, that I have been successfull in helping people convicted of murders, manslaughter, terrorism (IRA, UDA), fraud and deception, armed robberies, etc, etc, etc...

The 'devil is in the detail', as I always say...
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2018, 11:25:AM »
I am 62 years old (next Birthday), and I would like to believe and I think that during my involvement in one form or another with the Criminal Justice System, and the 'players' involved in the running of that system, that I know whether or not someone is trying to 'pull the wool' over anyones eyes...

For the benefit of doubt, I should just say without naming names, that I have been successfull in helping people convicted of murders, manslaughter, terrorism (IRA, UDA), fraud and deception, armed robberies, etc, etc, etc...

The 'devil is in the detail', as I always say...

As a point of interest, I would just like to say, that without being involved in the Hillsboro' disaster cover up investigation, that based on my personal experience that I know that South Yorkshire police are culpable for the falsification of, and editing of witness statements intended to improve the case of South Yorkshire police in this matter - my experience tells me that cops lied, and that a miscarriage of justice occurred...
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Re: The John Kennedy Bradley, testimony at Bambers trial...
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2018, 11:26:AM »
As a point of interest, I would just like to say, that without being involved in the Hillsboro' disaster cover up investigation, that based on my personal experience that I know that South Yorkshire police are culpable for the falsification of, and editing of witness statements intended to improve the case of South Yorkshire police in this matter - my experience tells me that cops lied, and that a miscarriage of justice occurred...

I know that this is / was true...
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