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Offline mike tesko

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Mike, you often go to great lengths to answer questions which haven't been asked or points which haven't been raised...................or possibly to avoid answering questions which HAVE been asked or points which HAVE been raised. The above post being an example of such. You suggest I might "try to pay more attention to detail". It's the details which are left out which deserve attention. THEY'RE of far greater interest to me.

And, so they should be...

These are the facts from where I sit regarding the preposterous claim that Sheila could have shot herself twice with the same rifle and SM in the main bedroom! If you believe that she did then your not thinking straight! She couldn't have shot herself twice using the same rifle with SM fitted, because the gap between the trigger and the position of the lower wound in Sheila's neck was smaller than the gap between the trigger and the muzzle end of the SM fitted to the end of the anshuzt rifles barrel!

It's an impossible scenario that Jeremy and his team are trying to prove occured or happened, he's got his work cut out trying to prove something which cannot possibly be true! Sheila didn't shoot herself, not once, not twice!

As for PC Mildenhall never having made a witness statement regarding his duties of listening and monitoring a 999 call from whf, Mildenhall did make such a witness statement, there is reference to this fact, and to the fact that the DPP and senior officers did not want his statement in as part of the prosecution's case! I have already posted confirmation of this recently but to date no-one else has picked up on this fact! I can't be held accountable for everybody's thought processes, people either pick up on something I am saying, or posting, or they don't...
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And, so they should be...

These are the facts from where I sit regarding the preposterous claim that Sheila could have shot herself twice with the same rifle and SM in the main bedroom! If you believe that she did then your not thinking straight! She couldn't have shot herself twice using the same rifle with SM fitted, because the gap between the trigger and the position of the lower wound in Sheila's neck was smaller than the gap between the trigger and the muzzle end of the SM fitted to the end of the anshuzt rifles barrel!

It's an impossible scenario that Jeremy and his team are trying to prove occured or happened, he's got his work cut out trying to prove something which cannot possibly be true! Sheila didn't shoot herself, not once, not twice!

As for PC Mildenhall never having made a witness statement regarding his duties of listening and monitoring a 999 call from whf, Mildenhall did make such a witness statement, there is reference to this fact, and to the fact that the DPP and senior officers did not want his statement in as part of the prosecution's case! I have already posted confirmation of this recently but to date no-one else has picked up on this fact! I can't be held accountable for everybody's thought processes, people either pick up on something I am saying, or posting, or they don't...

The SM was not on the gun at all. This can be demonstrated by the contact wound to Sheila's neck.

Contact wounds from a .22 not a Ruger Mini-14. The only one trying to prove something that is not true is you.

Offline mike tesko

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The SM was not on the gun at all. This can be demonstrated by the contact wound to Sheila's neck.

Contact wounds from a .22 not a Ruger Mini-14. The only one trying to prove something that is not true is you.

According to the evidence which convicted Jeremy the Silencer as you put it was fitted to the end of the guns barrel!

Which facts would you like me to adopt so that this case can be solved?
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Mike. Lets compare the power of the ammunition in Sheila's rifle (.22lr ) to that in of the ammunition in Mildenhalls rifle (.223)






Had Sheila been shot with the .223 the crime scene photos will look very different. And she will certainly not survive one shot to the neck. It would almost take her head off.

By no stretch of the imagination did any of the weapons used by the police get fired on Sheila.

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According to the evidence which convicted Jeremy the Silencer as you put it was fitted to the end of the guns barrel!

Which facts would you like me to adopt so that this case can be solved?

It was Rivlins defence strategy that convicted Jeremy. Not facts.




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It was Rivlins defence strategy that convicted Jeremy. Not facts.

I am not disputing that...
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Offline mike tesko

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Mike. Lets compare the power of the ammunition in Sheila's rifle (.22lr ) to that in of the ammunition in Mildenhalls rifle (.223)






Had Sheila been shot with the .223 the crime scene photos will look very different. And she will certainly not survive one shot to the neck. It would almost take her head off.

By no stretch of the imagination did any of the weapons used by the police get fired on Sheila.

I have never said Mildenhall shot Sheila with any gun!
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The illustration does not impress me...
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The illustration does not impress me...

They are melons being shot at with the same ammunition used in this case. I think it perfectly demonstrates the relevant power of both bullets.

As the melon shot with a .223 demonstrates. The damage it inflicts is catastrophic. It is in no way consistent with the wounds inflicted on Sheila.

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And, so they should be...

These are the facts from where I sit regarding the preposterous claim that Sheila could have shot herself twice with the same rifle and SM in the main bedroom! If you believe that she did then your not thinking straight! She couldn't have shot herself twice using the same rifle with SM fitted, because the gap between the trigger and the position of the lower wound in Sheila's neck was smaller than the gap between the trigger and the muzzle end of the SM fitted to the end of the anshuzt rifles barrel!

It's an impossible scenario that Jeremy and his team are trying to prove occured or happened, he's got his work cut out trying to prove something which cannot possibly be true! Sheila didn't shoot herself, not once, not twice!

As for PC Mildenhall never having made a witness statement regarding his duties of listening and monitoring a 999 call from whf, Mildenhall did make such a witness statement, there is reference to this fact, and to the fact that the DPP and senior officers did not want his statement in as part of the prosecution's case! I have already posted confirmation of this recently but to date no-one else has picked up on this fact! I can't be held accountable for everybody's thought processes, people either pick up on something I am saying, or posting, or they don't...


Having asked ME to pay attention, you seem not to have followed your own advice. I have never believed Sheila shot herself twice -although there was once a time, prior to knowing about a second shot, when I was prepared to believe she shot herself- but I believe Jeremy did. The more convoluted, fantastic and outrageous become your explanations of how he didn't but OTHERS did, the more convinced I am that Jeremy did.

In response to your comment that no one has picked up on your posted confirmation(s). A few possible explanations.

A) It's Christmas

B) It's become too wordy/convoluted

C) They don't believe the "confirmation"

D) They don't believe your version of events per se

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Having asked ME to pay attention, you seem not to have followed your own advice. I have never believed Sheila shot herself twice -although there was once a time, prior to knowing about a second shot, when I was prepared to believe she shot herself- but I believe Jeremy did.

Jane J there are many posts on here from the past where it has been put to you that Sheila was shot twice. You have responded to those posts and continued to express your belief of Jeremy's innocence after you replied to those posts.

So either you are being dishonest or you are suffering from dementia.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 09:32:AM by David1819 »

Offline mike tesko

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Having asked ME to pay attention, you seem not to have followed your own advice. I have never believed Sheila shot herself twice -although there was once a time, prior to knowing about a second shot, when I was prepared to believe she shot herself- but I believe Jeremy did. The more convoluted, fantastic and outrageous become your explanations of how he didn't but OTHERS did, the more convinced I am that Jeremy did.

In response to your comment that no one has picked up on your posted confirmation(s). A few possible explanations.

A) It's Christmas

B) It's become too wordy/convoluted

C) They don't believe the "confirmation"

D) They don't believe your version of events per se

It does not concern me what others believe regarding what I have to say,  all that concerns me is that I believe what I say, because it is the truth. You could say that I don't believe what others are saying about this or that, people are entitled to believe what they want to believe! Evidence exists to support my views on the various features of and in the case!..

People should stop visiting my posts if they don't believe there could be some truth in what I have to say!
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Offline Jane

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Jane J there are many posts on here from the past where it has been put to you that Sheila was shot twice. You have responded those posts and continued to express your belief of Jeremy's innocence after you replied to those posts.

So either you are being dishonest or you are suffering from dementia.

There was a time when you were convinced of Jeremy's guilt but you do your damnedest not to own it now by trying to divert attention onto others. YES! I once believed Jeremy was innocent. I probably WANTED him to be innocent, and still did up to the time when it started to gnaw at me that he wasn't. The only person I was being dishonest to was myself.

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Jeremy was such a clever killer that he even fooled police into recording two different police files, one where it was four murders and a suicide, the other when it was five murders!
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It does not concern me what others believe regarding what I have to say,  all that concerns me is that I believe what I say, because it is the truth. You could say that I don't believe what others are saying about this or that, people are entitled to believe what they want to believe! Evidence exists to support my views on the various features of and in the case!..

People should stop visiting my posts if they don't believe there could be some truth in what I have to say!

Given that 'truths' have a habit of contradicting each other it would be impossible to believe them all. Are you saying that each 'truth' was only believed to be 'true' at the time it was posted. Simply saying "evidence exists to support" isn't saying evidence exists to verify correctness. Clicking on a post isn't verification of belief.................only curiosity.