The unseen, unread Case files - the search for the truth...

[Jane]

Yes----the truth for Jeremy.

But you can't tell him something he already knows.

[mike tesko]

Personally, I don't think there are, just things that weren't used at trial. Jeremy has already been told if he asked for specific documents, he can have them but he won't play ball. Guess as long as he maintains they're being withheld, it makes him the victim! Boo Hoo! 

There was hundreds of thousands of documents withheld from Bambers legal team pre-trial, not only stuff which supposedly fell under pii - there are still to this day a very large amount of documents still either missing, unaccounted for, or still being withheld under the same (get out of jail free clause) pii...

Also, there are photographs taken by the first SOC team who captured the various scene inside whf, between 9.00am and 10.00am, which coincided with senior officers performing their 'informatives' when they shifted the bodies one by one off the top of the bed, and [positioned them both on the bedroom floor either side of the bed! Sheila's body was photographed on top of the bed sporting only one shot to the neck,  I have seen it myself, I had the photograph in question in my possession, I posted it to Jeremy at HMP Full Sutton, but it was intercepted by Prison Security, and it caused merry hell between Jeremy and his new legal representative (GDS), and between Jeremy and myself, but he knows that I had that photograph, and he knows that I sent it in to him, and he knows that I took it from the album of photographs loaned to Ewen Smith by the CCRC, on the quiet because Ewen had applied to work for the CCRC, and eventually was accepted as part of their organisation...

Sheila Caffell was definitely laid on top of the bed, shot once in the neck, with no gun on or near her body, and no bible on her chest or anywhere near her body on the bed at all..

I do not say that I ever saw a photograph of Sheila's and Junes bodies on the bed together, because I didn't but from what Ann Eaton says she was told by a cop she cannot remember the name of that Sheila's and Junes bodies were found on top of the bed side by side of one another, and that there was a rifle on the bed in between both bodies, and that Sheila had a bible on her chest!

I am not saying that the first team of SOC ( DC Oakey and DC Henderson) who captured the various crime scenes at the farmhouse never photographed both of the bodies on the bed before senior officers authorised the movement of them, to either side of the bed in which they had been laying upon, since I have never seen any such photograph(s) but they must surely exist...

I am not here to tell lies, I am here primarily to get to the truth, albeit my version of the truth...

My version of the truth in this matter is more believable than the version of the truth which Essex police, the relatives, and the experts from the lab', have been responsible for presenting...

Greed on the part of certain relatives, and fear on the part of Essex police, lies at the heart of this case...

[mike tesko]

But you can't tell him something he already knows.

It depends upon what you mean, regarding what you say he already knows!

[Adam]

How are you getting on with the documents in you're shed Mike. Any new information ?

[mike tesko]

Mike,do you want me to include anything in the letter I'm writing to Jeremy ?

Please pass on my regards to him, I do not need to hear from him personally, since it is better that we are not in direct contact with one another, otherwise people might think we are colluding! Just tell him on my behalf that I will have him and his predicament in my mind and heart at this time of year, and please remind him of the Christmas we spent locked together in his cell for three to four hours on that particular Christmas (its not very often that a triple category A prisoner is allowed to mingle with someone considered to be so dangerous). I am spending Christmas alone this year, just like him, albeit I am out here, and he is in there. I say I am spending Christmas alone, but that is not entirely true because I have got my carers and I have got my dog (mist' le toe)...

Thank you!

[mike tesko]

How are you getting on with the documents in you're shed Mike. Any new information ?

Adam, I know we are on opposite sides of the fence in this case,but believe me when I say that I will be posting new material up as and when I come come across, or upon it...

I am currently trying to deal with a bit at a time...

I have a few boxes of material in my downstairs bathroom which I am trying to go through - once I eventually deal with that my next task will be to get my carers to bring me box by box from the shed into the house, so that I can start on it all, after that I will hopefully be able to get my carers to bring me down everything from my spare bedroom so that I can sift through everything in my possession. I will of course post up everything I think or believe to be relevant whether or not it might cast Jeremy in a good light or a poor one!

[lookout]

Please pass on my regards to him, I do not need to hear from him personally, since it is better that we are not in direct contact with one another, otherwise people might think we are colluding! Just tell him on my behalf that I will have him and his predicament in my mind and heart at this time of year, and please remind him of the Christmas we spent locked together in his cell for three to four hours on that particular Christmas (its not very often that a triple category A prisoner is allowed to mingle with someone considered to be so dangerous). I am spending Christmas alone this year, just like him, albeit I am out here, and he is in there. I say I am spending Christmas alone, but that is not entirely true because I have got my carers and I have got my dog (mist' le toe)...

Thank you!

Mike,I will certainly pass on your wishes. I'll be posting the letter/card tomorrow. If anything, Jeremy has got far more company than you have  In fact,it's long been a bone of contention with me in that prisoners have always been better off than some pensioners come Christmas,though I now realise that there are exceptions--------such as in this case.

[mike tesko]

Mike,I will certainly pass on your wishes. I'll be posting the letter/card tomorrow. If anything, Jeremy has got far more company than you have  In fact,it's long been a bone of contention with me in that prisoners have always been better off than some pensioners come Christmas,though I now realise that there are exceptions--------such as in this case.

Yes, thank you!

I agree, from my experiences of being detained, prisoners (and I was one of them) did enjoy comforts not available or affordable to most pensioners or ordinary people at Christmas time!

[Caroline]

There was hundreds of thousands of documents withheld from Bambers legal team pre-trial, not only stuff which supposedly fell under pii - there are still to this day a very large amount of documents still either missing, unaccounted for, or still being withheld under the same (get out of jail free clause) pii...

Also, there are photographs taken by the first SOC team who captured the various scene inside whf, between 9.00am and 10.00am, which coincided with senior officers performing their 'informatives' when they shifted the bodies one by one off the top of the bed, and [positioned them both on the bedroom floor either side of the bed! Sheila's body was photographed on top of the bed sporting only one shot to the neck,  I have seen it myself, I had the photograph in question in my possession, I posted it to Jeremy at HMP Full Sutton, but it was intercepted by Prison Security, and it caused merry hell between Jeremy and his new legal representative (GDS), and between Jeremy and myself, but he knows that I had that photograph, and he knows that I sent it in to him, and he knows that I took it from the album of photographs loaned to Ewen Smith by the CCRC, on the quiet because Ewen had applied to work for the CCRC, and eventually was accepted as part of their organisation...

Sheila Caffell was definitely laid on top of the bed, shot once in the neck, with no gun on or near her body, and no bible on her chest or anywhere near her body on the bed at all..

I do not say that I ever saw a photograph of Sheila's and Junes bodies on the bed together, because I didn't but from what Ann Eaton says she was told by a cop she cannot remember the name of that Sheila's and Junes bodies were found on top of the bed side by side of one another, and that there was a rifle on the bed in between both bodies, and that Sheila had a bible on her chest!

I am not saying that the first team of SOC ( DC Oakey and DC Henderson) who captured the various crime scenes at the farmhouse never photographed both of the bodies on the bed before senior officers authorised the movement of them, to either side of the bed in which they had been laying upon, since I have never seen any such photograph(s) but they must surely exist...

I am not here to tell lies, I am here primarily to get to the truth, albeit my version of the truth...

My version of the truth in this matter is more believable than the version of the truth which Essex police, the relatives, and the experts from the lab', have been responsible for presenting...

Greed on the part of certain relatives, and fear on the part of Essex police, lies at the heart of this case...

And the same will be true of most cases or the trial would last years. Look at how much paperwork you have - do you think every single document should have been show to the jury? How confused would they be trawling through that lot? The trial is a condensed version of the case with the main aspects presented.

[mike tesko]

And the same will be true of most cases or the trial would last years. Look at how much paperwork you have - do you think every single document should have been show to the jury? How confused would they be trawling through that lot? The trial is a condensed version of the case with the main aspects presented.

Aah, so now we are getting down to the truth of the situation - the prosecution and its allies decide upon which parts they will fight to prosecute somebody, it may not matter that they have in their possession evidence which contradicts that which they seek to rely upon (fair enough), but then they withhold the key evidence which exposes the lies they are relying upon, under the 'guise of pii, or worse still, undisclosed material which cannot be viewed by a defendants counsel because it might be stored in various places through a particular region...

[Caroline]

Aah, so now we are getting down to the truth of the situation - the prosecution and its allies decide upon which parts they will fight to prosecute somebody, it may not matter that they have in their possession evidence which contradicts that which they seek to rely upon (fair enough), but then they withhold the key evidence which exposes the lies they are relying upon, under the 'guise of pii, or worse still, undisclosed material which cannot be viewed by a defendants counsel because it might be stored in various places through a particular region...

Well, that's the way you're looking at it but it happens in every case or a trial would never end would it?

[mike tesko]

Well, that's the way you're looking at it but it happens in every case or a trial would never end would it?

I think your missing the point, since armed with all this information, much of which contradicts the claim that somebody committed an offence, or other, the decision to prosecute leads to miscarriages of justice - its alright saying that this evidence and that evidence supports the case for somebody or other having committed an offence, but if those that make the decision to prosecute someone have other evidence or information in their possession which suggest otherwise, its a complete waste of public funds and court time having a trial in the first instance!

This was the situation in the instant case, where the police had gathered evidence and information thaat Sheila had shot and killed the others and that they say she had then gone on to commit suicide!

Hey, listen please, there are very few cases where the police have different crime reference no.'s for the same case but it happened in this prosecution! It started off as SC/688/85 and changed into SC/786/85! Furthermore, the Lab' case reference, altered from 2464/85 and became F/790/85...

Taking the matter a step further, just to make the point, various key exhibits even had their exhibit references altered, and the corresponding Lab' item No.'s altered..

Now, please, lets not try to pretend that this was not entirely confusing and to a great degree somewhat dishonest? Oh, ok lets not say 'dishonest' because the powers that be are not dishonest, its all done with the best intentions...