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Offline mike tesko

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So, why didn't Fletcher make a witness statement stating this as being true, or at least of being a possibility?

'Innit'?
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Seems to me to be a case of Fletcher not being able to match any of those burn marks to the circumference of a silencer mark on the back of Neville Bambers neck, otherwise, 'Innit', he would have said so?
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Seems to me to be a case of Fletcher not being able to match any of those burn marks to the circumference of a silencer mark on the back of Neville Bambers neck, otherwise, 'Innit', he would have said so?

So, according to the burn marks on the rear of Neville Bambers neck, these were not made by the end of a silencer being pressed into the back of Nevilles neck in the vicinity of the kitchen,'Innit'...
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So, it becomes at least clear by reference to the burn marks on the back of neville Bambers neck, that the silencer was not attached to the barrel of the anshuzt rifle when his neck was burned by the barrel of one of the guns!

That gun has almost certainly got to have been a reference to the anshuzt rifles barrel ('Innit') if we are to believe what the prosecutions ballistic expert has gone on record as saying!

And so, the anshuzt rifles barrel, minus a silencer pressed into the back of Neville Bambers neck - was Sheila already shot and dead by that stage, or would a budding killer who had planned to blame his sister for the deaths of the others have killed her outright before the attack on Neville Bamber?
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So, it becomes at least clear by reference to the burn marks on the back of neville Bambers neck, that the silencer was not attached to the barrel of the anshuzt rifle when his neck was burned by the barrel of one of the guns!

That gun has almost certainly got to have been a reference to the anshuzt rifles barrel ('Innit') if we are to believe what the prosecutions ballistic expert has gone on record as saying!

And so, the anshuzt rifles barrel, minus a silencer pressed into the back of Neville Bambers neck - was Sheila already shot and dead by that stage, or would a budding killer who had planned to blame his sister for the deaths of the others have killed her outright before the attack on Neville Bamber?

Surely, with Bamber as the prospective killer, he would not have shot and killed his sister (who he intended to blame) before he attacked and shot dead Neville Bamber?

Would he have?

So, on the footing that Jeremy might be the shooter who killed everyone (which I don't for one moment agree with), it would surely have been part of his plan to shoot dead and kill his sister last of all!

Why then in such circumstances would he need to attach the silencer onto the barrel of the gun to shoot dead his sister?
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Surely, with Bamber as the prospective killer, he would not have shot and killed his sister (who he intended to blame) before he attacked and shot dead Neville Bamber?

Would he have?

So, on the footing that Jeremy might be the shooter who killed everyone (which I don't for one moment agree with), it would surely have been part of his plan to shoot dead and kill his sister last of all!

Why then in such circumstances would he need to attach the silencer onto the barrel of the gun to shoot dead his sister?

He probably did.
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Jeremy Bamber killed no-one...

Without the discredited silencer, blood and paint evidence, which is / was pure fabrication, there was absolutely no shred of circumstantial evidence to convict anyone of the murders!
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Jeremy Bamber killed no-one...

Without the discredited silencer, blood and paint evidence, which is / was pure fabrication, there was absolutely no shred of circumstantial evidence to convict anyone of the murders!

There was a clear attempt made by the relatives from the outset to imply that Jeremy had used the silencer when he shot and killed the family. Its all there in Robert Boutflours typed diary notes, Jeremy had used the silencer, and he had used one of Sheila's tampon to clean it afterwards...

I will eventually get around to posting up the evidence proving bias of the relatives, in trying to control the wealth involved in the Bamber parents estate, and Mabel Speakmans estate...

Peter Eaton was under investigation of stealing from N and J Bamber Ltd, but the relatives got away with it because of the influence of Robert Boutflour as a co- freemasonic friend of Peter Simpson! This mob always help each other, their sworn to do so, and make deals sealed with funny handshakes and frivolous dancing rituals...

Neville Bamber was a freemason, Robert Boutflour was one, Peter Simpson another, and the trial judge, Mr Justice Drake was also a freemason - Jeremy Bamber never stood a chance of ever getting a fair trial, his fate was sealed with funny handshakes and frivolous dancing between all parties at a moments notice...
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There was a clear attempt made by the relatives from the outset to imply that Jeremy had used the silencer when he shot and killed the family. Its all there in Robert Boutflours typed diary notes, Jeremy had used the silencer, and he had used one of Sheila's tampon to clean it afterwards...

I will eventually get around to posting up the evidence proving bias of the relatives, in trying to control the wealth involved in the Bamber parents estate, and Mabel Speakmans estate...

Peter Eaton was under investigation of stealing from N and J Bamber Ltd, but the relatives got away with it because of the influence of Robert Boutflour as a co- freemasonic friend of Peter Simpson! This mob always help each other, their sworn to do so, and make deals sealed with funny handshakes and frivolous dancing rituals...

Neville Bamber was a freemason, Robert Boutflour was one, Peter Simpson another, and the trial judge, Mr Justice Drake was also a freemason - Jeremy Bamber never stood a chance of ever getting a fair trial, his fate was sealed with funny handshakes and frivolous dancing between all parties at a moments notice...

Harris, Gibbons and DCI Jones were all freemasons...

Some investigations where these characters became embroiled were sorted out with a nod, a wink, a funny handshake, and frivolous dancing using handkerchiefs..
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Harris, Gibbons and DCI Jones were all freemasons...

Some investigations where these characters became embroiled were sorted out with a nod, a wink, a funny handshake, and frivolous dancing using handkerchiefs..

Was it just a coincidence that Stan Jones became a freemason at the beginning of September 1985, when the nature of the case changed focus?

DI Soanes (Special Branch) was also a freemason...

They were all involved in a circle of lies, a circle of corruption, a circle of death, a circle of forgery, and a circle of dishonesty...
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Was it just a coincidence that Stan Jones became a freemason at the beginning of September 1985, when the nature of the case changed focus?

DI Soanes (Special Branch) was also a freemason...

They were all involved in a circle of lies, a circle of corruption, a circle of death, a circle of forgery, and a circle of dishonesty...

It wouldn't surprise me if the prosecutions ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher was also a freemason, as well as the blood expert, John Hayward, and the biologist, Brian Elliot...
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There was a lot of effort on the part of the police that went into eventually prosecuting Jeremy Bamber as the killer - once Robert Boutflour contacted Peter Simpson around 6th September 1985, to give him an ultimatum!

'Go, get Jeremy, and prosecute him as the killer', was Boutflours argument, 'otherwise, all hell is going to break loose, and Essex police had better get ready to take a big fall'...

Robert Boutflour had got all the facts right, concerning how and when Sheila had been shot and killed and her body being present in different parts of the farmhouse, after firearm officers entered the farmhouse...

Do, or die, that was Robert Boutflours message to Peter Eaton..
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anyway, what a turn up for the books, the prosecution's ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, concluding that one of the burn marks made on the back of Neville Bambers neck was made by the end of a guns barrel!

I wonder if that particular mark was made by the end of a .22 gun, or a 12 bore shotgun barrel?

Of course, Fletcher would know the answer to that this, must have been the dimensions of a .22 gun because he made out the case for it being a one gun crime, that the only gun used in the shootings was the .22 anshuzt rifle (minus the silencer)...
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anyway, what a turn up for the books, the prosecution's ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher, concluding that one of the burn marks made on the back of Neville Bambers neck was made by the end of a guns barrel!

I wonder if that particular mark was made by the end of a .22 gun, or a 12 bore shotgun barrel?

Of course, Fletcher would know the answer to that this, must have been the dimensions of a .22 gun because he made out the case for it being a one gun crime, that the only gun used in the shootings was the .22 anshuzt rifle (minus the silencer)...

Rather more alarmingly, what if the mark that was made by the end of a guns barrel, indicated that the gun in question had got its metal end cap attached at the time it made contact with the back of Nevill Bambers neck! That is why this needs to be looked into more thoroughly, because if the metal end cap was threaded onto the end of the guns barrel when it had made that burn mark on the back of Nevill Bambers neck, then of course the silencer evidence and everything that goes with it has to be thrown out of the window...
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Rather more alarmingly, what if the mark that was made by the end of a guns barrel, indicated that the gun in question had got its metal end cap attached at the time it made contact with the back of Nevill Bambers neck! That is why this needs to be looked into more thoroughly, because if the metal end cap was threaded onto the end of the guns barrel when it had made that burn mark on the back of Nevill Bambers neck, then of course the silencer evidence and everything that goes with it has to be thrown out of the window...

Then again, what if the metal end cap that might have been attached to the end of the guns barrel which made the burn mark on the back of Nevill Bambers neck, might also have been of the same dimensions as the end of the guns barrel upon which DS Davidson had told the COLP investigators that red paint had been found (admitted to COLP in 1991 police interviews)...

Maybe that gun was Anthony Pargeters gun? But according to the cops and Pargeter himself, it wasn't and couldn't have been...

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...