Defining moments of evidence

[mike tesko]

(1) - during the trial testimony of PC Bird (Witham SOC) he was being questioned about the order he took photographs inside the main bedroom, and he basically told the court that he took photograph numbers, 23, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33. When challenged about who had taken photograph number 25, PC Bird said that he did not take that particular photograph. He told the court that DC Oakey (HQ SOC) had taken that particular photograph..

Rather astonishingly, no-one picked up on the significance of this!

According to DI Cook (Witham SOC), his team of SOCO's consisting of himself, DC Hammersley, DS Davidson, and PC Bird, took control of the farmhouse from 10 O'clock onwards, and no-one else was permitted to enter the premises until they had completed their enquiries, which consisted of taking photographs of the bodies of the victims Insitu, and the gathering of exhibits! To all intents and purposes, SOCO weren't permitted to take control of the crime scene until two and a half hours (10.00 am) after the raid team set off to enter the farmhouse at 7.30am!

Photograph 25 showed a view of Sheila Caffells body on the bedroom floor in possession of the rifle!

No-one realised the significance of what PC Bird told the court regarding the fact that DC Oakey (HQ SOC) had taken that (25) photograph...

It was a clear indication that a separate team of SOCO had had control of the scene prior to Witham SOCO taking control of the same from 10.00 am, onwards...

[mike tesko]

(1) - during the trial testimony of PC Bird (Witham SOC) he was being questioned about the order he took photographs inside the main bedroom, and he basically told the court that he took photograph numbers, 23, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, and 33. When challenged about who had taken photograph number 25, PC Bird said that he did not take that particular photograph. He told the court that DC Oakey (HQ SOC) had taken that particular photograph..

Rather astonishingly, no-one picked up on the significance of this!

According to DI Cook (Witham SOC), his team of SOCO's consisting of himself, DC Hammersley, DS Davidson, and PC Bird, took control of the farmhouse from 10 O'clock onwards, and no-one else was permitted to enter the premises until they had completed their enquiries, which consisted of taking photographs of the bodies of the victims Insitu, and the gathering of exhibits! To all intents and purposes, SOCO weren't permitted to take control of the crime scene until two and a half hours (10.00 am) after the raid team set off to enter the farmhouse at 7.30am!

Photograph 25 showed a view of Sheila Caffells body on the bedroom floor in possession of the rifle!

No-one realised the significance of what PC Bird told the court regarding the fact that DC Oakey (HQ SOC) had taken that (25) photograph...

It was a clear indication that a separate team of SOCO had had control of the scene prior to Witham SOCO taking control of the same from 10.00 am, onwards...

(2) - a rather astounding revelation presented as part of a TV Documentary 'Killing Mum and dad', Giovani De Stefano (GDS) produced a previously unseen photograph showing fresh blood pouring and leaking from Sheila Caffells neck wound, and mouth, which he suggested had been taken at 9 O'clock on the first morning! It now becomes apparent where 'GDS' got the time (9am) this particular photograph was taken! He found out that the photograph in question could not have been taken by PC Bird (Witham SOC) because he did not start taking photographs until after 10.00am that same morning! He found out that senior police officers had conducted 'familiars' during an hour long period between 9 and 10am, and that HQ SOC accompanied this process (hence why as PC Bird stated whilst testifying, that DC Oakey had taken photograph 25), the HQ SOC team who worked around and alongside senior officers, were none other than DC Oakey and DC Henderson...

GDS was specific, he stated during the aforementioned TV Documentary, that the photograph in question, which showed fresh blood pouring and leaking from a wound and the corners of Sheila's mouth had been taken at 9am based upon the fact  that HQ SOC accompanied senior officers during the key period when senior officers conducted 'familiars' prior to the various crime scenes inside the farmhouse being handed over to the Witham SOC at 10.00am...

DC Oakey and or DC Henderson took the key photograph showing fresh blood pouring and leaking from a neck wound and the mouth of Sheila, about an hour before PC Bird could have possibly been in a position to take such a photograph! It becomes apparent that during the period of time which elapsed between the taking of that photograph, by HQ SOC and the first occasion which PC Bird could have taken any photographs at all of Sheila, that the fresh looking consistency of the blood in the former, had ample time to have dried by the time PC Bird carried out his duty!

[mike tesko]

The only other alternative was that If PC Bird had taken the above photograph, then he could only have taken it after 10.00am,  which would then have required that the inflicting of the neck wound would have have to occurred, at least six hours previously if Jeremy Bamber, was indeed his sister's killer - Jeremy Bamber arrived at the scene and was met by the occupants of CA07 at 3.52am...

At some stage during that six hour period, someone had placed two fingers against the under the chin shot in an attempt to stem the flow of blood! Thereafter, the fingers had been removed and fresh blood had flowed and leaked over the top of the aforementioned finger marks!

[mike tesko]

(3) - within one hour of DC Clark and DS Jones having entered the farmhouse and witnessed the position of the bodies of all five victims in situ, they told Ann Eaton, after they arrived at Jeremy's cottage, the following facts - (a) that Neville Bambers body was downstairs in the kitchen, (b) that upstairs in the main bedroom and laying side by side on top of the bed, were the bodies of June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell, in-between both bodies and resting on the bed was a rifle, and that on top of Sheila's chest was a bible, (c) that the two child victims, Daniel and Nicholas Caffell, were in their respective beds in another bedroom...

[mike tesko]

(3) - within one hour of DC Clark and DS Jones having entered the farmhouse and witnessed the position of the bodies of all five victims in situ, they told Ann Eaton, after they arrived at Jeremy's cottage, the following facts - (a) that Neville Bambers body was downstairs in the kitchen, (b) that upstairs in the main bedroom and laying side by side on top of the bed, were the bodies of June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell, in-between both bodies and resting on the bed was a rifle, and that on top of Sheila's chest was a bible, (c) that the two child victims, Daniel and Nicholas Caffell, were in their respective beds in another bedroom...

Ann Eaton, and the other relatives, including Jeremy, therefore were under an impression that the bodies of Sheila had been found laid alongside eachother on top of the bed in the main bedroom, not on the bedroom floor either side of the bed, and with the rifle on top of Sheila's chest, and a bible by her upper and outer right arm!

[mike tesko]

How had DC Clark and DS Jones managed to get the positioning of June and Sheila's bodies so wrong, when they had visited the main bedroom prior to leaving the scene with Jeremy Bamber to go to his cottage?

The stark truth in the matter was that nobody expected Clark and Jones to disclose any information to the family, or to the press, anything about where the bodies had been found, or how they had individually, or collectively met their end! Senior officers disturbed the bodies of June and Sheila, only after Clark and Jones had already left the scene, and they were unaware that Clark and Jones would reveal information to the relatives which later on might prove to be significantly problematic! Likewise, back at Jeremy's cottage, Clark, Jones, and the relatives, never imagined that senior officers back at the scene, would disturb the position of June and Sheila's bodies on top of the bed, or the position of the rifle that had been in the bed between them, or the position of the bible from Sheila's chest, onto different parts of the bedroom floor, either side of the bed...

The existence of these conflicting accounts between the police at the scene, and the relatives back at Jeremy's cottage, concerning the whereabouts of June and Sheila's bodies when found or positioned at different stages after the raid team first entered the farmhouse, including the visit to the main bedroom scene by Clark and Jones, at which stage June and Sheila's bodies were laid either side of eachother on top of the bed, and afterwards when senior officers authorised the movement of both of these bodies from the bed to the floor, became a Significant bargaining tool to the relatives who were all intent on presenting Jeremy as the killer! It became a case of, 'you will co-operate with our wishes, otherwise we will expose the fact that police tampered with the crime scene and the police (not Jeremy) staged Sheila's body on the bedroom floor in possession of the riffle, designed to support the case for the shootings to be treated as four murders and a suicide, when Sheila's body had previously been on the bed'!

[mike tesko]

How had DC Clark and DS Jones managed to get the positioning of June and Sheila's bodies so wrong, when they had visited the main bedroom prior to leaving the scene with Jeremy Bamber to go to his cottage?

The stark truth in the matter was that nobody expected Clark and Jones to disclose any information to the family, or to the press, anything about where the bodies had been found, or how they had individually, or collectively met their end! Senior officers disturbed the bodies of June and Sheila, only after Clark and Jones had already left the scene, and they were unaware that Clark and Jones would reveal information to the relatives which later on might prove to be significantly problematic! Likewise, back at Jeremy's cottage, Clark, Jones, and the relatives, never imagined that senior officers back at the scene, would disturb the position of June and Sheila's bodies on top of the bed, or the position of the rifle that had been in the bed between them, or the position of the bible from Sheila's chest, onto different parts of the bedroom floor, either side of the bed...

The existence of these conflicting accounts between the police at the scene, and the relatives back at Jeremy's cottage, concerning the whereabouts of June and Sheila's bodies when found or positioned at different stages after the raid team first entered the farmhouse, including the visit to the main bedroom scene by Clark and Jones, at which stage June and Sheila's bodies were laid either side of eachother on top of the bed, and afterwards when senior officers authorised the movement of both of these bodies from the bed to the floor, became a Significant bargaining tool to the relatives who were all intent on presenting Jeremy as the killer! It became a case of, 'you will co-operate with our wishes, otherwise we will expose the fact that police tampered with the crime scene and the police (not Jeremy) staged Sheila's body on the bedroom floor in possession of the riffle, designed to support the case for the shootings to be treated as four murders and a suicide, when Sheila's body had previously been on the bed'!

It was the relatives themselves who leaked information to the press that June and Sheila's bodies had been found on top of the bed, with the gun in-between both bodies, and a bible on Sheila's chest! They told the press, what DC Clark and DS Jones had told them at Jeremy's cottage within an hour of both officers having seen the bodies on the bed less than an hour previously!

[lookout]

That's what I remember reading first Mike. Certain things you can recollect and that was one of them.

[mike tesko]

To the minds of relatives, they found out afterwards, that the police had moved the bodies of June and Sheila from the bed, to the floor either side of the bed, and realised that there was something seriously wrong with what the police were telling them, and what police are saying they had found, and by what stage! They also found out that cops had moved the rifle from its position on the bed at the time Clark and Jones had seen it, onto and into Sheila Caffells possession so that it might look like or appear as though she could have or might have taken her own life there! It must have confused the relatives and nurtured disturbing thoughts in their minds along the lines that 'something extremely sinister' had been going on surrounding all the deaths, but in particular, 'why had police disturbed Sheila's body on the bed' and 'moved it to the bedroom floor'? Moreover, why place the rifle in her possession and present the staged scene as evidence that she must have committed suicide?

[mike tesko]

To the minds of relatives, they found out afterwards, that the police had moved the bodies of June and Sheila from the bed, to the floor either side of the bed, and realised that there was something seriously wrong with what the police were telling them, and what police are saying they had found, and by what stage! They also found out that cops had moved the rifle from its position on the bed at the time Clark and Jones had seen it, onto and into Sheila Caffells possession so that it might look like or appear as though she could have or might have taken her own life there! It must have confused the relatives and nurtured disturbing thoughts in theirminds along the lines that 'something extremely sinister' had been going on surrounding all the deaths, but in particular, 'why had police disturbed Sheila's body on the bed' and 'moved it to the bedroom floor'? Moreover, why place the rifle in her possession and present the staged scene as evidence that she must have committed suicide?

Taking this issue a step further, DC Clark and DS Jones told Ann Eaton and the other relatives, that all the victims had died as a result of a single gunshot each!

[mike tesko]

Taking this issue a step further, DC Clark and DS Jones told Ann Eaton and the other relatives, that all the victims had died as a result of a single gunshot each!

It wasn't until days later when a close friend of the relatives (PC Robert Carr) told the relatives the shocking truth, that Neville Bamber had been shot 7/8 times, June had been shot 7 times, that Daniel Caffell had been shot 5 times, that his twin Nicholas had been shot 3 times and that Sheila had been shot twice! It was as a result of being told all of this that the relatives started to get a bee in their Bonnetts! The matter not helped by the fact, that Julie Mugford had gone along with the police version of events after attending Chelmsford hospital mortuary to identify the five victims and lying to them about how many times each victim had been shot! In particular, upon returning to the cottage after performing the aforementioned duties, Julie told everyone present at Jeremy's cottage in Head Street, Goldhanger, that Sheila had only been shot just the once, and indicating with her index finger a point directly beneath her own chin!!!

This must have been a very disturbing and confusing period for the relatives, who originally had no suspicion that Jeremy could be involved, until they had to deal with the lies police had been telling them, and the lies Julie Mugford had told them!

From that point onward, relatives began to think that Jeremy might after all, have had something to do with it!

[mike tesko]

That's what I remember reading first Mike. Certain things you can recollect and that was one of them.

Yes, Lookout, there exists a police action somewhere in my possession, which mentions that somebody is responsible for leaking sensitive information from the investigation to the press! I will sooner or later lay my hands upon it again and post it in the relevant section of this forum!

[mike tesko]

(4) - There exists no official acknowledgement that any of the relatives had contact with, or influenced Julie Mugfords decision to speak to the police! None of the relatives appear to officially have had to say a bad word about the role Julie must have played in the killings (if her account be a true one)!

The timing of Julie Mugfords decision to speak to police coincided with Robert Woodside Boutflour's decision to go and visit the Assistant Chief Constable, 'Peter' Simpson, insisting that there should be a fresh investigation with Jeremy as the suspect...

[mike tesko]

(4) - There exists no official acknowledge that any of the relatives had contact with, or influenced Julie Mugfords decision to speak to the police! None of the relatives appear to officially have had to say a bad word about the role Julie must have played in the killings (if her account be a true one)!

The timing of Julie Mugfords decision to speak to police coincided with Robert Woodside Boutflour's decision to go and visit the Assistant Chief Constable, 'Peter' Simpson, insisting that there should be a fresh investigation with Jeremy as the suspect...

There must have been some form of collusion between Julie Mugford, the relatives, and Essex police, for these two events to have occurred, at around the same time, some five weeks or so after the tragedy! I simply don't believe that Robert Boutflour and Julie Mugford contacted the police at the same time of the investigation, one asking that Jeremy be treated as the suspect, and the other implying that Jeremy is a suspect!

Too coincidental for my liking, there must have been some form of collusion involving the interested parties..

[mike tesko]

(5) - In Julie Mugfords account, she never once mentions any reference to a sound moderator being used in the shootings!