Verbatim Project

[lookout]

Well naturally, it's hypothetic but there's a certain irony in it.

Where's the irony ??

[Jane]

Where's the irony ??

Oh dear Well, try to imagine that you've been convicted committed an horrendous crime that another person had been part of. Whilst you languish in prison they're off free, enjoying their life. You can't implicate them, though, because you've always claimed innocence. Hmm?

[lookout]

Oh dear Well, try to imagine that you've been convicted committed an horrendous crime that another person had been part of. Whilst you languish in prison they're off free, enjoying their life. You can't implicate them, though, because you've always claimed innocence. Hmm?

Well that's because he is innocent !! I don't see it any other way.

[lookout]

Jeremy was never caught up in the whys and wherefores of Sheila's hospital care,nor the ongoing situation between his parents and Sheila's welfare.All he'd been privy to was her stay in hospital but with no in-depth reason why,only that which was the sparse information he'd gathered. It wasn't until his incarceration did he know the full extent of her moods and behaviour and how smoking cannabis had affected her mental state. It only takes a twice a week habit over a certain period to alter a brains way of thinking which eventually leads to a bi-polar situation------FACT !

[Jane]

Jeremy was never caught up in the whys and wherefores of Sheila's hospital care,nor the ongoing situation between his parents and Sheila's welfare.All he'd been privy to was her stay in hospital but with no in-depth reason why,only that which was the sparse information he'd gathered. It wasn't until his incarceration did he know the full extent of her moods and behaviour and how smoking cannabis had affected her mental state. It only takes a twice a week habit over a certain period to alter a brains way of thinking which eventually leads to a bi-polar situation------FACT !

Do you believe that if you keep peddling it, it will make it true? Go right back to the start. It was JEREMY who fed police every single piece of information about Sheila. It was all they had to work on -if he really didn't know, he made a damn good job of making it up as he went. We know he'd spoken with Colin, about her and the boys, at the party. It's highly likely that his ears pricked up when she was being discussed at WHF. He clearly was NOT ignorant. He was able to tell police, quite comprehensively, about her condition and name it. He went into it in detail. It matters not that he probably embellished the information, I doubt that any police present were experts on mental health. Just to be clear, I reiterate. EVERY scrap of information the police had about Sheila was given them by Jeremy.

[lookout]

Do you believe that if you keep peddling it, it will make it true? Go right back to the start. It was JEREMY who fed police every single piece of information about Sheila. It was all they had to work on -if he really didn't know, he made a damn good job of making it up as he went. We know he'd spoken with Colin, about her and the boys, at the party. It's highly likely that his ears pricked up when she was being discussed at WHF. He clearly was NOT ignorant. He was able to tell police, quite comprehensively, about her condition and name it. He went into it in detail. It matters not that he probably embellished the information, I doubt that any police present were experts on mental health. Just to be clear, I reiterate. EVERY scrap of information the police had about Sheila was given them by Jeremy.

Telling the police that your sister is " nutty " isn't exactly a full diagnosis is it ? This is where a little knowledge was a dangerous thing.
The first contact that EP should have made was the psychiatric hospital where Sheila had previously been.

[Jane]

Telling the police that your sister is " nutty " isn't exactly a full diagnosis is it ? This is where a little knowledge was a dangerous thing.
The first contact that EP should have made was the psychiatric hospital where Sheila had previously been.

Oh! so he didn't tell them that she was a "paranoid depressive" OR that she'd just come out of hospital and was going back, OR that she'd previously attempted suicide? As for the police contacting St Andrews, I imagine they had more than enough on their hands at that hour of the morning.

[Caroline]

Jeremy was never caught up in the whys and wherefores of Sheila's hospital care,nor the ongoing situation between his parents and Sheila's welfare.All he'd been privy to was her stay in hospital but with no in-depth reason why,only that which was the sparse information he'd gathered. It wasn't until his incarceration did he know the full extent of her moods and behaviour and how smoking cannabis had affected her mental state. It only takes a twice a week habit over a certain period to alter a brains way of thinking which eventually leads to a bi-polar situation------FACT !

Certain period? How long is that? Also, that is a generalisation and Sheila wasn't bi-polar - FACT!

[lookout]

Oh! so he didn't tell them that she was a "paranoid depressive" OR that she'd just come out of hospital and was going back, OR that she'd previously attempted suicide? As for the police contacting St Andrews, I imagine they had more than enough on their hands at that hour of the morning.

It's the job of the police to gather as much information as they can from the proper sources,hospitals,GP's etc and being as there was an army of police officers marching in and out of WHF,they could easily have spared two in which to carry out the said investigations and not leave everything to the relatives ( who hadn't known the family ) Even the overseer,Gradwell complained about the investigation and how it went.

[Jane]

It's the job of the police to gather as much information as they can from the proper sources,hospitals,GP's etc and being as there was an army of police officers marching in and out of WHF,they could easily have spared two in which to carry out the said investigations and not leave everything to the relatives ( who hadn't known the family ) Even the overseer,Gradwell complained about the investigation and how it went.

I think Jeremy was able to speak eloquently enough on the subject for them to believe that he'd given them enough facts to be going on with. Just for the record, what records/information do you imagine the hospital likely to provide at 4am?

[guest7363]

Certain period? How long is that? Also, that is a generalisation and Sheila wasn't bi-polar - FACT!

Its a Myth Caroline, lots of studies are now coming out that Canabbis has Know effect of the brain, even daily use, they used me as an example Caroline   

[Caroline]

It's the job of the police to gather as much information as they can from the proper sources,hospitals,GP's etc and being as there was an army of police officers marching in and out of WHF,they could easily have spared two in which to carry out the said investigations and not leave everything to the relatives ( who hadn't known the family ) Even the overseer,Gradwell complained about the investigation and how it went.

They did investigate her illness - what are you one about? The FACT that YOU have taken it upon yourself to reclassify her illness (out of the blue) just deflects from the facts. On the day of any murder, the focus in on the crime SCENE. And what do you mean the relatives didn't know the family? How well did YOU know them?

[Caroline]

Its a Myth Caroline, lots of studies are now coming out that Canabbis has Know effect of the brain, even daily use, they used me as an example Caroline   

They could use some of my friends  . Not one of them is bi-polar and they smoked quite regulary in their late teens and early twenties.

[lookout]

They could use some of my friends  . Not one of them is bi-polar and they smoked quite regulary in their late teens and early twenties.

Sooner or later they'll end up barmy.

[Jane]

Sooner or later they'll end up barmy.

And that proclamation has been proved irrefutable, has it, taking in the variables of what constitutes "barmy", how much any given person uses, under what circumstances it's used, the quality of what's used, for how long a period it's used..................