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Offline lookout

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2017, 03:48:PM »
Was it not part of Jeremy's disgruntlement during one of his conversations with Julie's mother -about his relationship with June- prior to the murders?







I don't know.Do we have her wit.stat. ?

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« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2017, 03:59:PM »






I don't know.Do we have her wit.stat. ?

Undoubtedly..................whilst you're looking for it, you could try looking for others who Jeremy might have said it to. He wouldn't have hated his parents for no reason, would he?

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2017, 04:36:PM »
I can't find anything pertaining to the fact that Jeremy had groused about his mother leaving her money,or any money to the church.

I did read a crime-writer's view on religious backgrounds playing a part in murders though. As once upon a time there were over 300 murders committed in a  square mile walk in London.

Recent studies showed that,quote " people of faith " are more likely to be murderers than atheists,unquote,Sept. 2017. 

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« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2017, 04:50:PM »
I can't find anything pertaining to the fact that Jeremy had groused about his mother leaving her money,or any money to the church.

I did read a crime-writer's view on religious backgrounds playing a part in murders though. As once upon a time there were over 300 murders committed in a  square mile walk in London.

Recent studies showed that,quote " people of faith " are more likely to be murderers than atheists,unquote,Sept. 2017.

I expect you'll find it eventually. You know how it is with these things. They have a habit of turning up when you're not looking for them, don't they?

 I wonder exactly WHICH faith that "study" is alluding to? No, don't tell me. I can guess. It may be of interest to know that for most "people of faith" it's wrong to take life, however, for fanatics, it's irrelevant whether or not they have faith. It may just be a convenient cloak to hide behind.

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2017, 05:09:PM »
I expect you'll find it eventually. You know how it is with these things. They have a habit of turning up when you're not looking for them, don't they?

 I wonder exactly WHICH faith that "study" is alluding to? No, don't tell me. I can guess. It may be of interest to know that for most "people of faith" it's wrong to take life, however, for fanatics, it's irrelevant whether or not they have faith. It may just be a convenient cloak to hide behind.






Varying faiths and religions. One murderer ( H H HOLMES )who had  strict religious parents  used to lock the children in the attic without food as a punishment for the smallest of " their sins ".

Isn't their motto " Thou shalt not kill ?".

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« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2017, 05:26:PM »





Varying faiths and religions. One murderer ( H H HOLMES )who had  strict religious parents  used to lock the children in the attic without food as a punishment for the smallest of " their sins ".

Isn't their motto " Thou shalt not kill ?".

As balanced against the millions who would never dream of treating their children in such a way, and probably even more million -of faith or otherwise- who believe "Thou shalt not kill".  Lookout, I'm very familiar with how stats work and I know that truly bad things happen, but I don't apply the bad in people first.

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2017, 09:50:AM »
Yes, Julie's family fell for Jeremy's charm - shockin!

In your opinion
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2017, 10:10:AM »
In your opinion

Jeremy s innocent in YOUR opinion - the forum is about opinion! Talk about stating the blood obvious!
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2017, 01:48:PM »
Jeremy s innocent in YOUR opinion - the forum is about opinion! Talk about stating the blood obvious!
totally agree caroline. :)) :)) :)) ;)

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2017, 05:55:PM »
totally agree caroline. :)) :)) :)) ;)

She's nothing if not the master of the obvious!
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2017, 06:00:PM »
She's nothing if not the master of the obvious!
:)) :)) :)) :))

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2017, 06:40:PM »
She's nothing if not the master of the obvious!


Shouldn't that be mistress?

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2017, 06:43:PM »

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Re: Freddie
« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2017, 06:49:PM »
:)) :))i hope i dont get a hernia through laughing :)) :))
Ha Ha, I thought it was the Essex boys before they turned violent Sami  ;D