CT's 'Verbatim Project'.

[lookout]

The one I have just listened to is a supposed conversation between Julie and Liz - unless they were being taped, that is NOT Verbatim!

But it's probably word for word from what the files/documents say  ?

[Caroline]

But it's probably word for word from what the files/documents say  ?

How can it be? They're saying that they 'believe' MW called the police, if what they have produced is verbatim, then they would know that! From what we know, Julie didn't call the police, LR did - so how does the suggestion that MW called make any difference to Bamber's plight? I'm struggling to see the point in this?

[Steve_uk]

For info..

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/verbatim-project

If they cant afford the voice actor who did the window video, I wish they would enlist the help of somebody experienced in recording and mixing.

Video 1

"She was a loving mother who lacked basic childcare.."

Video 2


"Sheila showed great affection towards her children.."

Video 3

"I have never seen her use physical violence against anyone.."
 
Video 4

She was happier because she was on better terms with him (Colin)..

Video 5..

..is misleading because Colin had care of the twins during the week anyway, and there was no suggestion that Sheila would lose complete contact with them.

[Steve_uk]

How can it be? They're saying that they 'believe' MW called the police, if what they have produced is verbatim, then they would know that! From what we know, Julie didn't call the police, LR did - so how does the suggestion that MW called make any difference to Bamber's plight? I'm struggling to see the point in this?

I agree that the videos stand or fall on their accuracy, otherwise it's just a publicity stunt.

[guest7363]

I agree that the videos stand or fall on their accuracy, otherwise it's just a publicity stunt.

Something they are not very good at.

[Caroline]

Something they are not very good at.

Accuracy or publicity stunts? 

[Jane]

Accuracy or publicity stunts? 

Most of those at whom it's aimed won't pick up on inaccuracies, will they?

[lookout]

Video 1

"She was a loving mother who lacked basic childcare.."

Video 2


"Sheila showed great affection towards her children.."

Video 3

"I have never seen her use physical violence against anyone.."
 
Video 4

She was happier because she was on better terms with him (Colin)..

Video 5..

..is misleading because Colin had care of the twins during the week anyway, and there was no suggestion that Sheila would lose complete contact with them.

Sadly,it's a known fact that this can change in an instant without warning.

[Caroline]

Sadly,it's a known fact that this can change in an instant without warning.

But unlikely while on regular medication.

[lookout]

But unlikely while on regular medication.

But it's highly likely if it's the wrong medication or the wrong dose as it produces adverse effects either way.

[Caroline]

But it's highly likely if it's the wrong medication or the wrong dose as it produces adverse effects either way.

The medication was a seditive and it wasn't the wrong medication - you may have been a nurse but you aren't/weren't qualifed to diagnose drugs or medical conditions. I used to be a navigator on a seismic research vessel but I don't believe I am Christopher Columbus!

[lookout]

The medication was a seditive and it wasn't the wrong medication - you may have been a nurse but you aren't/weren't qualifed to diagnose drugs or medical conditions. I used to be a navigator on a seismic research vessel but I don't believe I am Christopher Columbus!

I'm sorry Caroline,sedative or not,if it was the wrong medication ( a possibility ) and/or the wrong dose, ( another possibility ) then its effects or non-effects would have had a negative affect on Sheila,most positively.
I actually know quite a bit about medications and its effects on different individuals. No two people's reactions are alike as you should know. One mans meat is another mans poison.

Statins for instance are life-savers,but in some,are killers. I actually believe them to do good given the RIGHT dose.

[lookout]

The medication was a seditive and it wasn't the wrong medication - you may have been a nurse but you aren't/weren't qualifed to diagnose drugs or medical conditions. I used to be a navigator on a seismic research vessel but I don't believe I am Christopher Columbus!

Sedative or not,if it was the wrong drug or dose then there WOULD be adverse effects. I know quite a bit about medications and their effects on different individuals.

[Caroline]

I'm sorry Caroline,sedative or not,if it was the wrong medication ( a possibility ) and/or the wrong dose, ( another possibility ) then its effects or non-effects would have had a negative affect on Sheila,most positively.
I actually know quite a bit about medications and its effects on different individuals. No two people's reactions are alike as you should know. One mans meat is another mans poison.

Statins for instance are life-savers,but in some,are killers. I actually believe them to do good given the RIGHT dose.

I don't really care how much you blelieve you know, you don't know Sheila's case, you didn't know Sheila and it's easy to sit and criticise after the fact and especially as it is in the interest of your position to play down the FACT that Sheila was taking REGULAR medication. She still had a moderate dose in her system although her meds were due This is a sticking point for the innocent argument because schizophrenics are less likely to suffer psychosis when taking regular medication and if it's a toss up between taking the word of her qualified psychiatrist who spent time with her both when she was psychotic and stable OR someone arguing for an innocent Jeremy Bamber, then I'm going with her physician - regardless of how much you claim to know about drugs and their effects. Remember your own words that they effect indiviiduals differently and as you have no experience of how they affected Sheila, your agrument is moot.

[Caroline]

Sedative or not,if it was the wrong drug or dose then there WOULD be adverse effects. I know quite a bit about medications and their effects on different individuals.

For schizophreenia it was the RIGHT drug and ex nurse or not, you are no more qualified to make the above claim than anyone else on this forum.