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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2017, 01:56:PM »





Yes,justice I can't say I see anything nice about him myself. A "wide boy" type who would lead a saint along the wrong road. An opportunist who saw an easy touch in JB.

Oh those acid attacks are horrendous-----so cowardly and evil to ruin a person's life forever. Horse-whipped ? Cat o' nine tails ?
could also add the olden days (rack)to the above 2 . very evil people.as justice says stiffer sentences are in order













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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2017, 02:00:PM »





Yes,justice I can't say I see anything nice about him myself. A "wide boy" type who would lead a saint along the wrong road. An opportunist who saw an easy touch in JB.

Oh those acid attacks are horrendous-----so cowardly and evil to ruin a person's life forever. Horse-whipped ? Cat o' nine tails ?
I think Brett was only with Bamber to see what he could get, in his interview he was covering his back but ready to stick the knife in whether Jeremy was guilty or not.  He soon scarpered after and never re surfaced for his mate, he was soon rushing over from Greece when he thought he’d hit the jackpot. Lower than a snakes belly Lookout  ;)

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2017, 02:08:PM »
I think Brett was only with Bamber to see what he could get, in his interview he was covering his back but ready to stick the knife in whether Jeremy was guilty or not.  He soon scarpered after and never re surfaced for his mate, he was soon rushing over from Greece when he thought he’d hit the jackpot. Lower than a snakes belly Lookout  ;)

Let's look at it the other way round before we totally write him off, shall we? Can we see Jeremy hanging around to give Brett his unconditional support had it been Brett who was suspected of a serious crime when they were in NZ?

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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2017, 02:12:PM »
Let's look at it the other way round before we totally write him off, shall we? Can we see Jeremy hanging around to give Brett his unconditional support had it been Brett who was suspected of a serious crime when they were in NZ?
Your right Jane, never thought of it that way

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2017, 02:38:PM »
Let's look at it the other way round before we totally write him off, shall we? Can we see Jeremy hanging around to give Brett his unconditional support had it been Brett who was suspected of a serious crime when they were in NZ?






JB would have put himself on the line more than Brett did. I doubt very much that JB would have done a runner.

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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2017, 02:43:PM »





JB would have put himself on the line more than Brett did. I doubt very much that JB would have done a runner.
I think Jeremy would have offered support after, Lookout, Maybe Brett went because he didn’t want to get locked up in another Country?

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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2017, 02:46:PM »





JB would have put himself on the line more than Brett did. I doubt very much that JB would have done a runner.

As we've no evidence of Jeremy EVER having given unconditional support to anyone, you're obviously guessing.

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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2017, 02:52:PM »
As we've no evidence of Jeremy EVER having given unconditional support to anyone, you're obviously guessing.





Much the same as your guess,eh ?

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2017, 04:35:PM »
I think Jeremy would have offered support after, Lookout, Maybe Brett went because he didn’t want to get locked up in another Country?

Yes, 'after' he'd made sure he was a far enough distance away not to be implicated.

Perhaps Brett knew more than he let on, perhaps Jeremy did confide something to him and that's why he scarpered?
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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2017, 04:46:PM »




Much the same as your guess,eh ?


But, Lookout, I can produce NUMEROUS accounts of how badly Jeremy has treated people, EVEN from his prison cell. Can you produce anything which contradicts it?

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« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2017, 05:22:PM »

But, Lookout, I can produce NUMEROUS accounts of how badly Jeremy has treated people, EVEN from his prison cell. Can you produce anything which contradicts it?






How JB treated people doesn't equate to a charge of murder-----in anyone for that matter. This can't be used as an excuse. You could have someone who's syrupy-sweet to your face but would stab you as quick as looking,so how a person is to another person doesn't count.
We're all capable of blowing hot and cold at some point in life .

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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2017, 05:25:PM »
I've just finished listening to 5 verbatim monologues on bambertweets which are worth a listen into the insights of Sheila as a person,and also of matters which were missed out during the trial.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2017, 05:28:PM »

But, Lookout, I can produce NUMEROUS accounts of how badly Jeremy has treated people, EVEN from his prison cell. Can you produce anything which contradicts it?





Let's face it,most posters would say ( one or two having already said ) that over the years my approach to this case has been somewhat obnoxious at times,but it's a far cry from the person that I am and also to the many who know me personally.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2017, 05:39:PM »





How JB treated people doesn't equate to a charge of murder-----in anyone for that matter. This can't be used as an excuse. You could have someone who's syrupy-sweet to your face but would stab you as quick as looking,so how a person is to another person doesn't count.
We're all capable of blowing hot and cold at some point in life .

We are indeed, but our inner core doesn't change. I'm perfectly certain, that when Jeremy wished to impress, "syrupy-sweet" was to the forefront....................until the mask slipped.

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Re: Malice aforethought - an alternative view, and a different approach...
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2017, 05:49:PM »
Yes, 'after' he'd made sure he was a far enough distance away not to be implicated.

Perhaps Brett knew more than he let on, perhaps Jeremy did confide something to him and that's why he scarpered?

What about the alleged phone call he made to the 'honest and honourable' Paul Harrison?
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