did nevile phone the police station from the office phone.

[nugnug]

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are thankyou mike.

[Steve_uk]

A) Not all the original raid team statements have been disclosed.

B) Nevill calling the police would have almost certainly prevented Jeremy from being convicted in the first place. The relatives would be unable to persuade the police.

C) The police would surely have mentioned such a call to stop the relatives pestering them. Advocates of the Nevill phoned the police theory, fail to give any reasonable explanation as to why police would remain silent. The only explanation that makes sense is - there was no call.

D) Its a Paradox. i.e  the police are honest when denying they used the phone but dishonest about Nevill's call.

Can you explain what the material difference is between Nevill telephoning Police and him telephoning Jeremy, or why you believe one event occurred but not the other..

[nugnug]

if harris used the phone then that accounts for a call to the police station so that means theres no proof nevile phoned the police.

[Caroline]

if harris used the phone then that accounts for a call to the police station so that means theres no proof nevile phoned the police.

So where is the proof that he phoned Jeremy?

[nugnug]

So where is the proof that he phoned Jeremy?

well if di phoned the police then there isn't you cant realy prove who phoned just that the station was phoned.

[lookout]

This is just it,everyone is,and has jumped to conclusions about every aspect of the case,including the police. It's been done to suit whichever side you happen to be on,particularly by the " follow my leader " brigade.

[nugnug]

of course if nevile had phoned the police and not got a response. that would explain him phonin Jeremy instead.

[Jane]

of course if nevile had phoned the police and not got a response. that would explain him phonin Jeremy instead.

One might have hoped he'd have had the sense to call 999. I'm perfectly certain he'd have got a response.

[lookout]

of course if nevile had phoned the police and not got a response. that would explain him phonin Jeremy instead.

Wasn't one station closed ?

[Steve_uk]

Wasn't one station closed ?

This is the debate about whether he telephoned Witham, which PC West claims Jeremy said but which has been denied by Jeremy at all times.

[David1819]

Can you explain what the material difference is between Nevill telephoning Police and him telephoning Jeremy, or why you believe one event occurred but not the other..

I already have.

[Caroline]

I already have.

Where is the proof he called Jeremy?

[David1819]

Where is the proof he called Jeremy?

Sheila found dead having shot herself inside a house secured from the inside.

Jeremy's account supplemented by a polygraph examination.

Lack of livor mortis and rigour mortis indicates a late time of death for Sheila.

All of these by implication prove the call happened.

[Caroline]

Sheila found dead having shot herself inside a house secured from the inside.

Jeremy's account supplemented by a polygraph examination.

Lack of livor mortis and rigour mortis indicates a late time of death for Sheila.

All of these by implication prove the call happened.

Sheila's body was staged managed by Jeremy
Polygraph is NOT proof of anything! As an already convicted man, Bamber had no stress when taking the test (which is what the test actually measures) - why should he? He had nothing to lose and a psychopath wouldn't have a problem with the test anyway. You're going to say that he has previously beenn tested but the test is only as good as the tester and he had previously been diagnosed as a classic case of psychopathy.
Lack of livor mortis is your claim - you can see that it has formed on Sheila

All of these by implication prove the call didn't happen!

[nugnug]

Sheila's body was staged managed by Jeremy
Polygraph is NOT proof of anything! As an already convicted man, Bamber had no stress when taking the test (which is what the test actually measures) - why should he? He had nothing to lose and a psychopath wouldn't have a problem with the test anyway. You're going to say that he has previously beenn tested but the test is only as good as the tester and he had previously been diagnosed as a classic case of psychopathy.
Lack of livor mortis is your claim - you can see that it has formed on Sheila

All of these by implication prove the call didn't happen!

erm how can he stage lack of rigour mortis.