was there a redail feture on the phone.

[nugnug]

Yes nugs, thinking now it may be in Lomax's book, quite a few pages, can't remember the names of who phoned who from WHF to the police station in the morning and it was probably from the office phone. Sorry to be so vague, haven't got the book to hand.

thats ok if theres no evdence to the contary your words good enough for me.

[maggie]

thats ok if theres no evdence to the contary your words good enough for me.

Thanks nugs and Harters but will find it tomorrow.

[nugnug]

Thanks nugs and Harters but will find it tomorrow.

your welcome i look forward to seeing it in the morning.

[Caroline]

Yes it only remembered the last number dialled.  Think the last number dialled was to the police, however, it's thought that was probably done in the morning after the radiates entered.

One of the officers admitted to using the phone.

[nugnug]

One of the officers admitted to using the phone.

what station did he phone.

[Kaldin]

Would it have made much difference anyway? If Jeremy had phoned his own house, the last number would have been his number. I suppose the time he phoned his own house could have been significant because he had to get home afterwards, but that's all.

[guest2181]

Would it have made much difference anyway? If Jeremy had phoned his own house, the last number would have been his number. I suppose the time he phoned his own house could have been significant because he had to get home afterwards, but that's all.

It might have have been significant if the last call was to somebody else. Pamela for example.

[Kaldin]

It might have have been significant if the last call was to somebody else. Pamela for example.

Well yes, of course it would have been significant then. As I said, I have that same phone, and I don't think there's a redial option on it. It's just the old-fashioned type with an old-fashioned dial.

[guest2181]

Well yes, of course it would have been significant then. As I said, I have that same phone, and I don't think there's a redial option on it. It's just the old-fashioned type with an old-fashioned dial.

It must have been a real bore if you forgot something and had to ring somebody back, especially if their number was 99999. 

[Kaldin]

It must have been a real bore if you forgot something and had to ring somebody back, especially if their number was 99999. 

I know! I don't actually use the phone - it's a bit of an antique - but one did get impatient having to dial that way. I suppose everyone was used to it back then. 

[maggie]

Well yes, of course it would have been significant then. As I said, I have that same phone, and I don't think there's a redial option on it. It's just the old-fashioned type with an old-fashioned dial.

I have found it in Lomax's book. Chapter 14 'The Telephone Call' page 198
'The office telephone was seized and, because it was a relatively modern touch dial telephone, it had a last number dialled facility'
Documentary evidence uncovered prior to 2002 appeal showed
one of the Tactical Firearms Officers, ..... used the telephone to contact the station for some reason. '
'Documentary evidence has since come to light which shows that a request was made at 8.20 for the Assistant Chief Constable  of Essex Police,  Peter Simpson to speak with Detective Chief Inspector Harris using a land line, which could only be the telephone in White House Farm. ' 
He goes on to discuss this at greater length.
I know there was much discussion of the office telephone on the forum probably a few years ago. Hope this clears up my posts from last night.

[Kaldin]

I have found it in Lomax's book. Chapter 14 'The Telephone Call' page 198
'The office telephone was seized and, because it was a relatively modern touch dial telephone, it had a last number dialled facility'
Documentary evidence uncovered prior to 2002 appeal showed
one of the Tactical Firearms Officers, ..... used the telephone to contact the station for some reason. '
'Documentary evidence has since come to light which shows that a request was made at 8.20 for the Assistant Chief Constable  of Essex Police,  Peter Simpson to speak with Detective Chief Inspector Harris using a land line, which could only be the telephone in White House Farm. ' 
He goes on to discuss this at greater length.
I know there was much discussion of the office telephone on the forum probably a few years ago. Hope this clears up my posts from last night.

That does contradict what the Court of Appeal said, but I don't see why the office phone couldn't have a redial feature. It does call into question the accuracy of the Court of Appeal document, which I rely on a lot for information.

[Adam]

Court of Appeal:

The only telephone with a memory recall feature was the cordless telephone but this had been faulty and was collected for repair on the morning of 5 August 1985.

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Julie's WS says that Bamber mentioned the redial phone. If available on the massacre night, Bamber may have used it to dial his cottage.

It was removed for repair just before the massacre, so he may not have been aware of this.

[Adam]

Bamber would know if the office telephone had a redial feature.

He would have phoned his cottage using that phone. Then made sure the police checked that phone. He would not be aware that a police man apparently used it.

However in his police interviews & before he never suggested the police check the office phone.

[Kaldin]

Bamber would know if the office telephone had a redial feature.

He would have phoned his cottage using that phone. Then made sure the police checked that phone. He would not be aware that a police man apparently used it.

However in his police interviews & before he never suggested the police check the office phone.

If Jeremy had phoned from the office phone, would it not be apparent that the phone call had come from that phone and not the kitchen phone?