Sheila committing suicide

[guest7363]

Are you xxxxxx? " Heavy and regular " weren't MY words  YOU used the word addict,not ME 

Oh dear 

[lookout]

Oh dear 

Keep nit-picking why don't you.

[Jane]

Are you xxxxxx ? " Heavy and regular " weren't MY words  YOU used the word addict,not ME 

 No, but I'm beginning to believe you are. Either that, or you haven't the courage, you claim, of your convictions. Are you REALLY claiming that you've NEVER said she was a heavy and regular drug user, and name me an occasion on which I'VE used 'addict' to describe Sheila?

[Jane]

Keep nit-picking why don't you.

You invite such. All that required is an admission of, perhaps, having overstated some things in the heat of the moment, but it's not your style, is it? You'd sooner put the responsibility for your own words on others.

[lookout]

No, but I'm beginning to believe you are. Either that, or you haven't the courage, you claim, of your convictions. Are you REALLY claiming that you've NEVER said she was a heavy and regular drug user, and name me an occasion on which I'VE used 'addict' to describe Sheila?

Short of continually repeating myself,I said it was what I'd read about Sheila having been a heavy user in the last 12 months before her death---------jeeze.
Also it was YOU who'd accused ME of saying that Sheila was an addict,not the other way around.

Keep taking the medication as it's wearing off,obviously.

[Jane]

Well, if you haven't said it COvertly, it has to have been Overtly, doesn't it? Just about every one of your posts concerning Dr Ferguson and his -alleged by you- wrong diagnosis of her condition, is peppered with her 'heavy' and 'regular' use of drugs. I'd say you were suggesting addiction. A rose by any other name, Lookout. If you're willing to call her an addict -by whatever words you choose to employ- at least you could have the courage of your convictions when it comes to owning it.

So are you saying that, whilst you hold fast to her being a 'heavy and regular' drug user -of some 7 or so years- you don't believe her to have ever been an addict?

Short of continually repeating myself,I said it was what I'd read about Sheila having been a heavy user in the last 12 months before her death---------jeeze.
Also it was YOU who'd accused ME of saying that Sheila was an addict,not the other way around.

Keep taking the medication as it's wearing off,obviously.

You may well have continually repeated yourself -you usually do- which is why your views on Sheila's drug taking habits have become so well known. I don't actually have the need to ACCUSE you of calling her an addict, the tone of all you've ever said of her says it for me.

[sami]

No, but I'm beginning to believe you are. Either that, or you haven't the courage, you claim, of your convictions. Are you REALLY claiming that you've NEVER said she was a heavy and regular drug user, and name me an occasion on which I'VE used 'addict' to describe Sheila?

its nice to see that lookout still suffers from selective memory some things never change,but it has helped her over the years.(who me i never said such a thing)

[Jane]

its nice to see that lookout still suffers from selective memory some things never change,but it has helped her over the years.(who me i never said such a thing)

Absolutely! All those with SMS (selective memory syndrome) can live in blissful denial. It could explain why they have no feelings of guilt or responsibility. Why would they when it's always someone else's fault?

[sami]

I don't know of  any ONE -other than you- who has openly called Sheila a drug addict. I have no evidence of Sheila telling anyone she was addicted. I'm inclined to think she only used on those occasions when she socialized because she thought it gave her much needed confidence.

also jane no cannabis or joints or dog ends from joints were found.so i agree she wasnt a regular user.had she been police would have found one of the above.jb was more of a user than her

[Jane]

also jane no cannabis or joints or dog ends from joints were found.so i agree she wasnt a regular user.had she been police would have found one of the above.jb was more of a user than her

He got it for free. Sheila would have had to pay for hers.

[sami]

First shot was not instantly fatal, there were ddiffering opinions between the prosecutions expert (Venezis) and the defence one - in the latter case Professor Knight made out a case for Sheila still being able to move around continually for as long as half an hour after she sustained that first shot. The truth was that she ddiddn't move around continually for as long as that because she was stunned into unconsciousness and cops thought she was dead, but she regained consciousness and made her own way upstairs and collapsed on the bed next to June Bamber...

sorry david,but i agree with mike .the first 3 lines above

[buddy]

also jane no cannabis or joints or dog ends from joints were found.so i agree she wasnt a regular user.had she been police would have found one of the above.jb was more of a user than her

The reason police never found anything was because Sheila would have not smoked anything at the house.
June would never had permitted that. It would have been simple for her to go outside in the fields.
It has been said before that Sheila took harder drugs.
Was there not drugs found in the safe? Probably put there by Neville.

[sami]

The reason police never found anything was because Sheila would have not smoked anything at the house.
June would never had permitted that. It would have been simple for her to go outside in the fields.
It has been said before that Sheila took harder drugs.
Was there not drugs found in the safe? Probably put there by Neville.

i agree she wouldnt have smoked in the house but outside ,but she would not have her stash or rizlars stored outside.iam not sure what drugs were found in the safe.i do know that a regular smoker will have half a joint in the ash tray at night so when they wake up they dont need to build a joint

[buddy]

i agree she wouldnt have smoked in the house but outside ,but she would not have her stash or rizlars stored outside.iam not sure what drugs were found in the safe.i do know that a regular smoker will have half a joint in the ash tray at night so when they wake up they dont need to build a joint

I don't think the bambers were smokers, so there would not have been ash trays.
With the Bambers aversion to drugs I don't believe Sheila would take the chance to smoke in the house.
For this reason I find it hard to believe that she would have half a joint ready for the morning.

[sami]

I don't think the bambers were smokers, so there would not have been ash trays.
With the Bambers aversion to drugs I don't believe Sheila would take the chance to smoke in the house.
For this reason I find it hard to believe that she would have half a joint ready for the morning.

i disagree,after she had a few puffs at night outside its easy to stub the rest out and hide it in the house somewhere even in her shoe or handbag theres lots of places in whf where she could have hidden drugs or joints.i didnt know the bambers never smoked.