Sheila committing suicide

[mike tesko]

The first shot was fatal, just not instantly.

I don't think this guy was planning on pulling the trigger four times either.  If all you have is a rifle were else can you point it? 

First shot was not instantly fatal, there were ddiffering opinions between the prosecutions expert (Venezis) and the defence one - in the latter case Professor Knight made out a case for Sheila still being able to move around continually for as long as half an hour after she sustained that first shot. The truth was that she ddiddn't move around continually for as long as that because she was stunned into unconsciousness and cops thought she was dead, but she regained consciousness and made her own way upstairs and collapsed on the bed next to June Bamber...

[sherlock]

Does anyone know when Sheila began smoking cannabis-------or has any specific idea ?

I have no idea but in those days a typical age to start was around 16 to 18.

Unlike today it would have been a rare person who experimented much before that age.

[lookout]

I have no idea but in those days a typical age to start was around 16 to 18.

Unlike today it would have been a rare person who experimented much before that age.

So roughly speaking 7 years addiction. This is taken from age 20.

[Jane]

So roughly speaking 7 years addiction. This is taken from age 20.

Aha! So it WAS you who drip erroneous information to the press about Sheila?

[lookout]

Aha! So it WAS you who drip erroneous information to the press about Sheila?

I doubt it. What makes you say that ? Rather accusatory isn't it ??

[Jane]

I doubt it. What makes you say that ? Rather accusatory isn't it ??

Only that mine was as stupid and tongue in cheek a suggestion as -HOPEFULLY- was your own when you accused CP -whose book appeared years AFTER the crime- of feeding information to EP? about something which was in the press within DAYS of the crime.

[lookout]

Only that mine was as stupid and tongue in cheek a suggestion as -HOPEFULLY- was your own when you accused CP -whose book appeared years AFTER the crime- of feeding information to EP? about something which was in the press within DAYS of the crime.

Well then,who told CAL ?

[Jane]

Well then,who told CAL ?

I don't know of  any ONE -other than you- who has openly called Sheila a drug addict. I have no evidence of Sheila telling anyone she was addicted. I'm inclined to think she only used on those occasions when she socialized because she thought it gave her much needed confidence.

[lookout]

I don't know of  any ONE -other than you- who has openly called Sheila a drug addict. I have no evidence of Sheila telling anyone she was addicted. I'm inclined to think she only used on those occasions when she socialized because she thought it gave her much needed confidence.

Where have I said " openly " that Sheila was a drug addict ? You've been dreaming AGAIN 

[Jane]

Where have I said " openly " that Sheila was a drug addict ? You've been dreaming AGAIN 

Do you think you've said it covertly?

[lookout]

Do you think you've said it covertly?

No I jolly well haven't !! I'm more in charge of my faculties than you obviously are.

[Jane]

No I jolly well haven't !! I'm more in charge of my faculties than you obviously are.

Well, if you haven't said it COvertly, it has to have been Overtly, doesn't it? Just about every one of your posts concerning Dr Ferguson and his -alleged by you- wrong diagnosis of her condition, is peppered with her 'heavy' and 'regular' use of drugs. I'd say you were suggesting addiction. A rose by any other name, Lookout. If you're willing to call her an addict -by whatever words you choose to employ- at least you could have the courage of your convictions when it comes to owning it.

[lookout]

Well, if you haven't said it COvertly, it has to have been Overtly, doesn't it? Just about every one of your posts concerning Dr Ferguson and his -alleged by you- wrong diagnosis of her condition, is peppered with her 'heavy' and 'regular' use of drugs. I'd say you were suggesting addiction. A rose by any other name, Lookout. If you're willing to call her an addict -by whatever words you choose to employ- at least you could have the courage of your convictions when it comes to owning it.

I have NEVER used the word addict--------TROUBLEMAKER !!The " heavy " user comes from reports that say so in the year leading up to the tragedy. As does most other of my posts.

[Jane]

I have NEVER used the word addict--------TROUBLEMAKER !!The " heavy " user comes from reports that say so in the year leading up to the tragedy. As does most other of my posts.

So are you saying that, whilst you hold fast to her being a 'heavy and regular' drug user -of some 7 or so years- you don't believe her to have ever been an addict?

[lookout]

So are you saying that, whilst you hold fast to her being a 'heavy and regular' drug user -of some 7 or so years- you don't believe her to have ever been an addict?

Are you xxxxxx ? " Heavy and regular " weren't MY words  YOU used the word addict,not ME