How it started

[Adam]

The sink tidy in that position is not obstructing Bamber from exiting on either side of the window.

He could climb onto either side of the sink.

If the sink tidy was laying flat, it would cover all of one side. Either to the left or right of the sink.

Bamber moved it to ensure an easy climb onto the sink area & easy kitchen window exit.

The theory that Sheila committed the massacre & then moved the sink tidy while doing some washing up has been dismissed.

[Adam]

If that portion of window had vertical opening, it would have been easy enough for him to climb through, the placing of the sink tidy, when he left, conveying the message that everything was in it's place.

The sink tidy was not in it's usual place. It had been moved for the first time in years.

[Jane]

The sink tidy was not in it's usual place. It had been moved for the first time in years.

Given the general mayhem and carnage in the kitchen, would the position of the sink tidy be very high on their list of "things to be immediately suspicious of"? After all, courtesy of Jeremy's helpfulness, they were only looking for Sheila.

[Adam]

The housekeeper had worked for the Bambers for 20 years.

She had never left the sink tidy in another position, and never returned to work to see it in a different position - her WS.

The moved sink tidy is in the exact location where Bamber is said to have exited WHF.

The only credible explanation is Bamber moved it moments before his exit.

[Adam]

Given the general mayhem and carnage in the kitchen, would the position of the sink tidy be very high on their list of "things to be immediately suspicious of"? After all, courtesy of Jeremy's helpfulness, they were only looking for Sheila.

It was important enough for PB to testify in court.

David suggested PB lied as she didn't want to work for Bamber in the future.

Davids theory is not worthy of discussion but shows supporters don't believe Sheila did some washing up & moved the sink tidy after killing 4 people.

[lookout]

It was important enough for PB to testify in court.

David suggested PB lied as she didn't want to work for Bamber in the future.

Davids theory is not worthy of discussion but shows supporters don't believe Sheila did some washing up & moved the sink tidy after killing 4 people.

Sheila had made two cups of tea though,probably for her father and herself so could have rinsed them and left them draining, as two cups had been mentioned as being left out.
It's what you do when you can't sleep--------make a cup of tea.

[Adam]

Sheila had made two cups of tea though,probably for her father and herself so could have rinsed them and left them draining, as two cups had been mentioned as being left out.
It's what you do when you can't sleep--------make a cup of tea.

Source please.

For the first time in up to 20 years, the sink tidy & fairy liquid had been moved.

They had been moved on the massacre night.

Prior to the massacre, they were in the exact same & only location Bamber could exit WHF from.

The only logical explanation is Bamber moved them as he exited WHF.

A logical alternative explanation must be given. Othersise Bamber is guilty & it will be added to the forensic evidence list. 

[Jane]

Sheila had made two cups of tea though,probably for her father and herself so could have rinsed them and left them draining, as two cups had been mentioned as being left out.
It's what you do when you can't sleep--------make a cup of tea.

As you were obviously there, what happened to your cup? Did you wash it up yourself?

[Kaldin]

"Open halfway" suggests horizontal opening. It would be a strange window which also had a vertical opening.

Yes, he meant the window at the top. If that was open when the police went in, it can hardly have been banged shut by Jeremy or anyone else. However PS Jones denied that it had been open when he checked.

[Kaldin]

Unfortunately, we can't see the bottom catch in those photos. If it was in place then clearly nobody got out of that window.

[Kaldin]

Source please.

For the first time in up to 20 years, the sink tidy & fairy liquid had been moved.

They had been moved on the massacre night.

Prior to the massacre, they were in the exact same & only location Bamber could exit WHF from.

The only logical explanation is Bamber moved them as he exited WHF.

A logical alternative explanation must be given. Othersise Bamber is guilty & it will be added to the forensic evidence list.

Jean Bouttell said the Fairy Liquid was always kept in the left hand corner of the window sill, but there are other items there. Are you suggesting that Jeremy moved the Fairy liquid in order to get out of the window but left all the other items on the window sill where they were?

[Kaldin]

The sink tidy in that position is not obstructing Bamber from exiting on either side of the window.

He could climb onto either side of the sink.

If the sink tidy was laying flat, it would cover all of one side. Either to the left or right of the sink.

Bamber moved it to ensure an easy climb onto the sink area & easy kitchen window exit.

The theory that Sheila committed the massacre & then moved the sink tidy while doing some washing up has been dismissed.

Are you really suggesting that Jeremy put the sink tidy in an upright position in order to move around it to exit the window? He did this whilst leaving everything else on the window sill, except that he moved one bottle? Why would he not just move the sink tidy out of the way and then lean through the window and put it back?

[Adam]

Unfortunately the sink tidy being moved for the first time in up to 20 years, on the massacre night,  in the exact same & only location where Bamber could exit WHF, confirms what everyone knows.

Bamber exited the kitchen window & banged it shut from outside.

[guest2181]

Unfortunately, we can't see the bottom catch in those photos. If it was in place then clearly nobody got out of that window.

There doesn't appear to be a bottom catch. Just one in the middle.

[David1819]

Are you really suggesting that Jeremy put the sink tidy in an upright position in order to move around it to exit the window? He did this whilst leaving everything else on the window sill, except that he moved one bottle? Why would he not just move the sink tidy out of the way and then lean through the window and put it back?

And he says my arguments are not worthy of discussion.