How it started

[David1819]

I don't believe for one minute that June Boutell committed perjury.  I don't think there is any question of that.

Really? Do you not consider the possibility that she was persuaded into believing Jeremy was guilty. Then said what she said because an aquital would mean she ends up working for someone she believes is a mass murderer.

[Adam]

The housekeeper also says June kept her bible on her side of the bed. Which was the opposite side to where Sheila was found.

This refutes the suggestion that the bible fell onto Sheila's arm.

The housekeeper says she last saw Sheila on the 5th August when she seemed her normal self.

[Adam]

The housekeeper said she has seen June make notes & put them into her bible.

So much for the suicide note in the bible theory.

[lookout]

Hundreds of " normal selfs " have been found dead this year !!

[Lucy522]

It doesn't refute the suggestion that Sheila had hold of the bible before killing herself, who's to say June wasn't in bed reading it and threw it to the floor as she got shot and moved?? Also id like to know what the crocheted item was inside or underneath It,
The police officers cleaned up, they would of probably used the washing up liquid whilst doing so, I'm not sure they would of put it back in the "correct" place afterwards.

[Adam]

Really? Do you not consider the possibility that she was persuaded into believing Jeremy was guilty. Then said what she said because an aquital would mean she ends up working for someone she believes is a mass murderer.

The housekeeper committed perjury & helped convict an innocent man.

Because she didn't want to work for Bamber in the future.

Mmm.

[Jane]

It doesn't refute the suggestion that Sheila had hold of the bible before killing herself, who's to say June wasn't in bed reading it and threw it to the floor as she got shot and moved?? Also id like to know what the crocheted item was inside or underneath It,
The police officers cleaned up, they would of probably used the washing up liquid whilst doing so, I'm not sure they would of put it back in the "correct" place afterwards.

Given the size of it, it COULD have been one of those crocheted items, so loved by Victorians, which were placed between a heavy object and a polished surface, OR I recall that my great aunts used these delicate little items as dish/jug covers for sugar, butter, jams, honey and milk.

[Jane]

Hundreds of " normal selfs " have been found dead this year !!

Depends how one reads "normal", doesn't it?

[Adam]

The housekeeper says during the course of her employment, she had never seen the sink tidy in that position.

As I said, Bamber either moved it prior to exiting out of the window.

Or Sheila did some washing up after the massacre.

[guest2181]

Really? Do you not consider the possibility that she was persuaded into believing Jeremy was guilty. Then said what she said because an aquital would mean she ends up working for someone she believes is a mass murderer.

What has she said that vexed you so?

All I can see is that she said a plastic tray was out of place and that the washing up liquid was in the middle of the window rather than its usual place in the corner.

You post a photo which showed the washing up liquid in the window and claim it shows she was lying?

[lookout]

Depends how one reads "normal", doesn't it?

It was in answer to Adam's description of Sheila having appeared normal. Was she ??

[Lucy522]

The housekeeper says during the course of her employment, she had never seen the sink tidy in that position.

As I said, Bamber either moved it prior to exiting out of the window.

Or Sheila did some washing up after the massacre.

OR the police moved it whilst cleaning up
Do you really believe that that could never of happened?

[maggie]

Really? Do you not consider the possibility that she was persuaded into believing Jeremy was guilty. Then said what she said because an aquital would mean she ends up working for someone she believes is a mass murderer.

I accept there are various possibilities and one of them could be that she was got at but imo there are more important points.

[Adam]

OR the police moved it whilst cleaning up
Do you really believe that that could never of happened?

After the crime scene photos had been taken.

[lookout]

It appeared that quite a number of things had been moved prior and after photographing the crime scenes.