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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2017, 04:07:PM »
The campaigns fault for why he's still in prison - not his fault EVER

I agree, Stephanie, good posts actually.  I also think this is why he goes through so many legal teams - it's easier to blame others for their failings and blame then because that is a good excuse and it's a good distraction from the actual fact that the reason his appeals and campaigns fail isn't due to the failures of others but because he is guilty.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2017, 04:22:PM »
I agree, Stephanie, good posts actually.  I also think this is why he goes through so many legal teams - it's easier to blame others for their failings and blame then because that is a good excuse and it's a good distraction from the actual fact that the reason his appeals and campaigns fail isn't due to the failures of others but because he is guilty.

Simon Hall did the same Mat

He blamed previous campaigners, just like Bamber has done & silly me fell for that also  ::)
- though it turned out there was more to that after all

There is no ignoring the same patterns of behaviour

It's all there
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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2017, 04:24:PM »
The " so many legal teams " probably couldn't keep up. The case was/is way out of their league.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2017, 04:26:PM »
The " so many legal teams " probably couldn't keep up. The case was/is way out of their league.

It's an open and shut case

There is no "league" involved in crime Lookout - you are either guilty or not guilty

Or in Scotland not proven, which means sweet fa imo
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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2017, 04:36:PM »
The " so many legal teams " probably couldn't keep up. The case was/is way out of their league.

Which is the exact point that I was making - Bamber will blame the legal teams as being responsible  for not being able to handle the case or the evidence.
Nevermind the fact that the legal team has hand their hands tied by the evidence pointing to guilt.


Simon Hall did the same Mat

He blamed previous campaigners, just like Bamber has done & silly me fell for that also  ::)
- though it turned out there was more to that after all

There is no ignoring the same patterns of behaviour

It's all there


I don't think that you can be called "silly" for that. The Simon Hall case seemed like a simple case of he murdered her, or he didn't murder her.
But then it took quite a strange turn when the robbery was revealed.....If you had known about the robbery from the start it would have been fairer for you to make an opinion, but the fact that was kept from you for so long pretty much led you to believe one thing, when the truth was the opposite. I think anyone who allowed you to be in that position, fighting and campaining, yet kept something so big from you - deserves to be condemned to be honest.


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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 04:50:PM »
So much evidence had not been available which pointed to his innocence,had been one of the biggest  problems that past lawyers were faced with and still are,plus the trouble and expense of court orders which put a lot of lawyers off.Not that applying for court orders makes any difference as it's been proved that they don't.
If Essex police have nothing to hide,then why don't they produce the documents requested ?  I can't think what could still be of interest to them hanging on to them after all these years.
If they'd been detrimental to JB's cause,they'd have been displayed for all to see,but the longer EP hang on to them,the more suspicion grows------which it has,in many.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 04:54:PM »
So much evidence had not been available which pointed to his innocence,had been one of the biggest  problems that past lawyers were faced with and still are,plus the trouble and expense of court orders which put a lot of lawyers off.Not that applying for court orders makes any difference as it's been proved that they don't.
If Essex police have nothing to hide,then why don't they produce the documents requested ?  I can't think what could still be of interest to them hanging on to them after all these years.
If they'd been detrimental to JB's cause,they'd have been displayed for all to see,but the longer EP hang on to them,the more suspicion grows------which it has,in many.

What documents are still requested. When I was last here a year ago, Jeremy claimed that he now had everything.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 04:56:PM »
What documents are still requested. When I was last here a year ago, Jeremy claimed that he now had everything.

Bamber has everything.

The CT claim he hasn't as media properganda.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2017, 04:56:PM »
What documents are still requested. When I was last here a year ago, Jeremy claimed that he now had everything.







There are still the original murder/suicide documents being held. If you don't believe me,get in touch with Trudi of the CT-------she won't bite.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2017, 05:06:PM »
The handwritten letter by DS Kennealley where when asked about his review on the case,answered that " the evidence had indicated that Sheila was responsible " ref.Stokenchurch Enquiry.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2017, 05:20:PM »
The typed review of the case had asked :

" Why was Jeremy Bamber charged with murder when the evidence suggested that Sheila Caffell was responsible "?

 " Where is the evidence used for Det Supt.Kennealley's view of the case and why has it not been disclosed "?

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2017, 05:26:PM »
It's an open and shut case


It is certainly not an open and shut case, why it is still being strongly debated a third of a century later.  It depended upon largely circumstantial evidence, with no conclusive forensic evidence.  A number of people, not idiots, support JB's efforts to secure a further appeal.


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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2017, 06:00:PM »
The typed review of the case had asked :

" Why was Jeremy Bamber charged with murder when the evidence suggested that Sheila Caffell was responsible "?

 " Where is the evidence used for Det Supt.Kennealley's view of the case and why has it not been disclosed "?

Lookout can you remember if EP released any or indeed all of Julie's witness statement something is telling me they held some back.

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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2017, 06:19:PM »
It is certainly not an open and shut case, why it is still being strongly debated a third of a century later.  It depended upon largely circumstantial evidence, with no conclusive forensic evidence.  A number of people, not idiots, support JB's efforts to secure a further appeal.

The mountain of evidence which shows it was not Sheila. Surely that is conclusive forensic evidence.

Do you believe Sheila changed & had a shower after reading the bible.
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Re: Why does Jeremy Bamber repeatedly blame others for his shortcomings
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2017, 06:22:PM »
The mountain of evidence which shows it was not Sheila. Surely that is conclusive forensic evidence.

Do you believe Sheila changed & had a shower after reading the bible.

I do not consider there to be conclusive forensic evidence showing that Sheila was not responsible.

I do not know whether Sheila changed and had a shower but that possibility cannot be ruled out.