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Offline Jane

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #435 on: October 21, 2017, 10:47:AM »






Whatever I say or answer with you create an inquest, and this has all been done to death before so until something new or different emerges I'm going to refrain from continually repeating myself.
If you want/need the answers look back at old posts,they're bound to be there somewhere.

Surely you can't believe anyone will accept sweeping statements with no explanation other than it's "all been done to death" as an excuse for having nothing to back it up. Continually repeating -and hiding behind- your own long held, immutable beliefs, putting your faith in people like Poppy, doesn't make them right, NOR does it make Jeremy innocent.
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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #436 on: October 21, 2017, 10:49:AM »
Surely you can't believe anyone will accept sweeping statements with no explanation other than it's "all been done to death" as an excuse for having nothing to back it up. Continually repeating -and hiding behind- your own long held, immutable beliefs, doesn't make them right, NOR does it make Jeremy innocent.







And if you think you're always right,you're sorely mistaken. !

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #437 on: October 21, 2017, 10:56:AM »






And if you think you're always right,you're sorely mistaken. !

Ah, but the thing is, Lookout, it's not about what I think, but as I don't think I'm ALWAYS right, it doesn't come as a shock at those times I'm not.

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #438 on: October 21, 2017, 12:16:PM »
The shower head wasn't broken or ripped off anything, it was just hanging off the fitting.
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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #439 on: October 21, 2017, 12:20:PM »
The shower head wasn't broken or ripped off anything, it was just hanging off the fitting.

Which of course, puts a rather different complexion on things, doesn't it?..................unless it takes us into a lengthy discussion about whether Nevill/Sheila would 'always' have put it back onto the fitting after they'd used it.

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #440 on: October 21, 2017, 12:20:PM »
The shower head wasn't broken or ripped off anything, it was just hanging off the fitting.

That's what I assumed Ann meant, but I could be wrong. If it was just hanging off the fitting, that could suggest that someone had used the shower to just wash a specific part of them - hair, feet? It could also mean that someone merely used it to rinse down the shower walls and didn't put the shower head back in the fitting.

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« Reply #441 on: October 21, 2017, 12:23:PM »
That's what I assumed Ann meant, but I could be wrong. If it was just hanging off the fitting, that could suggest that someone had used the shower to just wash a specific part of them - hair, feet? It could also mean that someone merely used it to rinse down the shower walls and didn't put the shower head back in the fitting.

It suggests several things, Kaldin, but not by any stretch of the imagination, does it suggest a "struggle".

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« Reply #442 on: October 21, 2017, 12:24:PM »
That's what I assumed Ann meant, but I could be wrong. If it was just hanging off the fitting, that could suggest that someone had used the shower to just wash a specific part of them - hair, feet? It could also mean that someone merely used it to rinse down the shower walls and didn't put the shower head back in the fitting.

I think that's all it means, someone took it off the fitting and just didn't put it back.
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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #443 on: October 21, 2017, 12:25:PM »
I think that's all it means, someone took it off the fitting and just didn't put it back.

Yes, but there's usually a reason they take it off.

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« Reply #444 on: October 21, 2017, 12:30:PM »
Yes, but there's usually a reason they take it off.

They probably had a reason but it doesn't need to be related to the murders and we'll certainly never what that reason was.
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« Reply #445 on: October 21, 2017, 12:31:PM »
They probably had a reason but it doesn't need to be related to the murders and we'll certainly never what that reason was.

I read somewhere that Nevill usually had a shower at night, so if the shower had been taken off that night, it might be important - or it might not be.

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« Reply #446 on: October 21, 2017, 12:37:PM »
I read somewhere that Nevill usually had a shower at night, so if the shower had been taken off that night, it might be important - or it might not be.

He may have been in the habit of taking it off the fitting to rinse himself. But we can never know who took it off or why. Perhaps Nevil did, perhaps there are more sinister reasons but we'll never know.
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« Reply #447 on: October 21, 2017, 12:44:PM »
He may have been in the habit of taking it off the fitting to rinse himself. But we can never know who took it off or why. Perhaps Nevil did, perhaps there are more sinister reasons but we'll never know.

I guess not. Nobody seemed to have examined the shower tray so we'll never know.

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #448 on: October 21, 2017, 12:44:PM »
He may have been in the habit of taking it off the fitting to rinse himself. But we can never know who took it off or why. Perhaps Nevil did, perhaps there are more sinister reasons but we'll never know.

Perhaps the children were the last ones to be showered and maybe, because whoever showered them, was helping them into their 'jama's', the shower wasn't replaced.

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #449 on: October 21, 2017, 12:45:PM »
Perhaps the children were the last ones to be showered and maybe, because whoever showered them, was helping them into their 'jama's', the shower wasn't replaced.

There was a bathroom upstairs, so wouldn't that have been used for the twins?