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« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2017, 12:17:PM »
That's not what I said. See my previous post.

The gun was not left on the kitchen table anyway. It can't have been - there were bowls left on the table. The gun was left on or near to the settle in the adjacent room.

Not sure why you're attempting to group together AE's comment with guilters comments on the loaded weapon being left in the kitchen.

They're different.

The question is - did Nevill really put all guns away at night or not?

Don't know if he put the weapon away bamber has used, or if he unloaded it.

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« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2017, 12:18:PM »
Not sure why you're attempting to group together AE's comment with guilters comments on the loaded weapon being left in the kitchen.

They're different.

Don't know if he put the weapon away bamber has used, or if he unloaded it.

What is the point you're making mat?

The gun was not left on the kitchen table anyway.

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« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2017, 12:19:PM »
Of course he could.

Why would he know that? He hadn't lived with her for five years or so. How would he know what she did when she went to the farm?

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« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2017, 12:23:PM »
What is the point you're making mat?

The gun was not left on the kitchen table anyway.

I know, I have already said the case has been out of my mind for a year, I got the placement of the gun wrong. Can we stop with the stupid tar and feathering.  ;D

The point I am making is you're attempting to group something with the "guilters" when it doesn't fit in with what the "guilters" have actually said.

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Re: mugford rwb and the order of death.
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2017, 12:29:PM »
I bet he wouldn’t have done drug dealing and broke into the jewellers shop in New Zealand as well?


but theres abslutly no evdence he did other than a cliam made by an anon auther.

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« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2017, 12:32:PM »
I know, I have already said the case has been out of my mind for a year, I got the placement of the gun wrong. Can we stop with the stupid tar and feathering.  ;D

The point I am making is you're attempting to group something with the "guilters" when it doesn't fit in with what the "guilters" have actually said.

I was actually responding to this post:
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The problem Bambers supporters have Adam is they cherry pick at the evidence then make the rest up as they go along

I just didn't quote the person who made it.

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« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2017, 12:33:PM »
That's not what I said. See my previous post.

The gun was not left on the kitchen table anyway. It can't have been - there were bowls left on the table. The gun was left on or near to the settle in the adjacent room.

Only if JB is telling the truth.

If he is guilty, then it is likely that the story about the gun being left out is made up.


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« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2017, 12:33:PM »

but theres abslutly no evdence he did other than a cliam made by an anon auther.

Really? Are you saying that he wasn't dealing drugs? Do you not recall that Suzette Ford said he gave her a choice of watches that he bought back with him?

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« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2017, 12:35:PM »
Only if JB is telling the truth.

If he is guilty, then it is likely that the story about the gun being left out is made up.

I don't see where else the gun would have been. If he didn't leave the gun there, it would have been in the gun cupboard, but then he ran the risk of someone hearing him open the cupboard and get it out. If he's innocent, I doubt that Sheila would have gone to the gun cupboard either.

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« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2017, 12:37:PM »
Only if JB is telling the truth.

If he is guilty, then it is likely that the story about the gun being left out is made up.







If the rifle had been left on the table before JB left,who moved it after he'd gone ? It would have had to have been moved for the table to have been set for breakfast.

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« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2017, 12:37:PM »
Ann said it one statement that David collected all the guns from around the house. Does that not suggest that the guns were not in one place?

Some weapons were stored in the understair cupboard, others were stored in the downstairs bathroom. There is also a description of a broken down shotgun being located in the upstairs office.

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« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2017, 12:38:PM »






If the rifle had been left on the table before JB left,who moved it after he'd gone ? It would have had to have been moved for the table to have been set for breakfast.

JB didn't say he had left it on the table.

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« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2017, 12:38:PM »
Some weapons were stored in the understair cupboard, others were stored in the downstairs bathroom. There is also a description of a broken down shotgun being located in the upstairs office.

Stored in the downstairs bathroom? I didn't know that. So Nevill wasn't that particular about where he stored the guns then.

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« Reply #88 on: October 14, 2017, 12:39:PM »
I was actually responding to this post:
I just didn't quote the person who made it.

Doesn't really matter who you were responding to. Your point about guilters cherry picking is attempting to lump AE's apparent comment with guilters saying Neville wouldn't have left a loaded gun out - they don't go together, just seems like an attempted knock at guilters.

There is a big different between guns being in the gun cupboard or a shotgun under the bed........and a gun being loaded and left out in the kitchen.

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« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2017, 12:40:PM »
JB didn't say he had left it on the table.

No, he didn't. I have seen comments about it being left on the table, but I think it might have been comments from other websites or books possibly. If it's from a book, the author should check their facts.