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Offline mike tesko

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If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« on: May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM »
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 09:30:PM »
is it too late to submit this evidence to the ccrc now?
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 09:44:PM »
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...

So you expect it to fail?
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 09:48:PM »
Quote from: abs on May 31, 2011, 09:44:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...

So you expect it to fail?
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Like Jeremy and his legal team, I am still optimistic that his case will be referred back to court of appeal...
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 09:50:PM »
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...

If Jeremy and his legal team don't know about it, where has this new evidence come from?
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 10:09:PM »
Quote from: bob on May 31, 2011, 09:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...

If Jeremy and his legal team don't know about it, where has this new evidence come from?
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From the original Bamber file (SC/786/85), when the blood of the victims and relatives was tested and individual results were obtained, which were unique to each of them. The results obtained on that occasion, for Sheila's blood, were not used to confirm that the blood found in the silencer belonged exclusively to her, instead, this was qualified by a reliance upon the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1, which was not all by itself, unique to her, alone...

None of the blood found in the silencer, produced the identical blood results that matched Sheila's when tested...

Court has been deceived...

I have the documents and the results obtained to prove that the cliam that blood found in the silencer was unique to Sheila, was not true, that it was deceitful and misleading...

 
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 10:12:PM »
Mike, can I ask if JB still thinks that the silencer evidence is as important this time?
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2011, 10:17:PM »
Quote from: shonapugs on May 31, 2011, 10:12:PM
Mike, can I ask if JB still thinks that the silencer evidence is as important this time?
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Yes, the current CCRC application / review takes into account the silencer evidence, paint, blood and scratch marks and the like...
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2011, 10:18:PM »
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 10:09:PM
Quote from: bob on May 31, 2011, 09:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...

If Jeremy and his legal team don't know about it, where has this new evidence come from?
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From the original Bamber file (SC/786/85), when the blood of the victims and relatives was tested and individual results were obtained, which were unique to each of them. The results obtained on that occasion, for Sheila's blood, were not used to confirm that the blood found in the silencer belonged exclusively to her, instead, this was qualified by a reliance upon the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1, which was not all by itself, unique to her, alone...

None of the blood found in the silencer, produced the identical blood results that matched Sheila's when tested...

Court has been deceived...

I have the documents and the results obtained to prove that the cliam that blood found in the silencer was unique to Sheila, was not true, that it was deceitful and misleading...

That is true - they couldn´t have proven that without a DNA test, which of course they didn´t have back then. It is all just based on the very few blood groups there are.
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2011, 10:20:PM »
But IS the silencer important? It seems obvious to me that it was planted by spiteful relatives to change the course of the investigation.
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2011, 10:24:PM »
is iot too late for submissions to made to the ccrc mike?
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2011, 10:25:PM »
Quote from: abs on May 31, 2011, 10:18:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 10:09:PM
Quote from: bob on May 31, 2011, 09:50:PM
Quote from: mike tesko on May 31, 2011, 09:27:PM
New Application will be submitted based on fresh blood evidence

The details of this new evidence have not yet been brought to the attention Of Jeremy or his legal team, but should his application to the CCRC fail, then this new evidence will be the basis of a fresh application...

If Jeremy and his legal team don't know about it, where has this new evidence come from?
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From the original Bamber file (SC/786/85), when the blood of the victims and relatives was tested and individual results were obtained, which were unique to each of them. The results obtained on that occasion, for Sheila's blood, were not used to confirm that the blood found in the silencer belonged exclusively to her, instead, this was qualified by a reliance upon the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1, which was not all by itself, unique to her, alone...

None of the blood found in the silencer, produced the identical blood results that matched Sheila's when tested...

Court has been deceived...

I have the documents and the results obtained to prove that the cliam that blood found in the silencer was unique to Sheila, was not true, that it was deceitful and misleading...

That is true - they couldn´t have proven that without a DNA test, which of course they didn´t have back then. It is all just based on the very few blood groups there are.
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The tests revealed much more information than simple blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1, for all the victims and relatives (including Jeremy)...

Depending on what happens with CCRC decision, I will be posting copies of the new evidence on here...
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2011, 10:28:PM »
Quote from: shonapugs on May 31, 2011, 10:20:PM
But IS the silencer important? It seems obvious to me that it was planted by spiteful relatives to change the course of the investigation.



Well, it was one of the main things that got him convicted.  I think you have answered your own question.
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2011, 10:29:PM »
Quote from: andrea on May 31, 2011, 10:24:PM
is iot too late for submissions to made to the ccrc mike?
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Yes, unless CCRC make provisions to allow a new additional submission, before they make their final decision...

New evidence might have to wait either, (a) until CCRC refer case back to court of appeal, in which case Jeremy can bring any additional matter to the attention of the court dealing with the appeal, or (b) if CCRC refuse to send case back to appeal court, in which case, Jeremy can make another application, based upon this new evidence...
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Re: If CCRC refuse to refer Bamber case back to Court if appeal?
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2011, 10:38:PM »
why wasnt the new evidence made available to his defence before now?
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