Bullets fired and reloading

[Kaldin]

There is no source Kaldin.

I just believe he had been shot several times, including one which shattered his jaw, and he fled the bedroom and managed to get as far as the kitchen before being set upon.

So it's just as likely that the killer went downstairs first. He was severely injured when he left the bedroom, so I'm not convinced he could have gone downstairs very fast.

[guest2181]

So it's just as likely that the killer went downstairs first. He was severely injured when he left the bedroom, so I'm not convinced he could have gone downstairs very fast.

Some people may have that view, but I do not.

If the killer left the scene, then I would think it more likely that NB would check on the other occupants of the household and see to his severely injured wife.

[Kaldin]

Some people may have that view, but I do not.

If the killer left the scene, then I would think it more likely that NB would check on the other occupants of the household and see to his severely injured wife.

He would want to make sure the killer wasn't able to do any more harm. If he fled before the killer, he had no chance of checking the other occupants or seeing to June.

For what reason do you think he fled? Just to save himself, or to phone the police, or what?

[guest2181]

He would want to make sure the killer wasn't able to do any more harm. If he fled before the killer, he had no chance of checking the other occupants or seeing to June.

For what reason do you think he fled? Just to save himself, or to phone the police, or what?

That is at best guesswork.

I just think he fled the scene of the threat, in severe pain. I don't think there was an thought processes going on, just a desire to get away.

[Kaldin]

That is at best guesswork.

I just think he fled the scene of the threat, in severe pain. I don't think there was an thought processes going on, just a desire to get away.

But you said he wouldn't have left June when she'd been shot, or he would have checked the other occupants, so do you think that he left his severely injured wife in the hands of a killer? If she hadn't been shot at the point he left the room, do you think he would have left her to her fate?

If you think he fled before he realised there were no bullets left, he would have had to just abandon them all.

[guest2181]

But you said he wouldn't have left June when she'd been shot, or he would have checked the other occupants, so do you think that he left his severely injured wife in the hands of a killer? If she hadn't been shot at the point he left the room, do you think he would have left her to her fate?

If you think he fled before he realised there were no bullets left, he would have had to just abandon them all.

I don't think there was any thought, just an instinct to get away.

If he had been given time to think and react, by the killer leaving, then I think he would have checked on others.

Obviously I do not 'know' this, but that is my view.

[Kaldin]

I just think that if the killer was Jeremy, he could have caught up with Nevill before he got to the kitchen - if Nevill had left the bedroom first.

[guest2181]

I just think that if the killer was Jeremy, he could have caught up with Nevill before he got to the kitchen - if Nevill had left the bedroom first.

In that scenario, maybe he did. Maybe the fight/assault started in the hall.

[guest2181]

I just think that if the killer was Jeremy, he could have caught up with Nevill before he got to the kitchen - if Nevill had left the bedroom first.

In a Sheila guilty scenario, do you think that she would go off and reload? Or just continue her attack with what she had to hand.

I guess I'm thinking that a schizophrenic rage possibly doesn't allow the calmness of thought to decide to plan ahead and go downstairs to reload.

[maggie]

That is at best guesswork.

I just think he fled the scene of the threat, in severe pain. I don't think there was an thought processes going on, just a desire to get away.

I agree Harters, I'm sure Nevill would have been very traumatised and as you say probably unable to think beyond his own flight or fight mechanism.

[Kaldin]

In a Sheila guilty scenario, do you think that she would go off and reload? Or just continue her attack with what she had to hand.

I guess I'm thinking that a schizophrenic rage possibly doesn't allow the calmness of thought to decide to plan ahead and go downstairs to reload.

Good question, and I'm not sure. Perhaps she didn't intend to reload, but then Nevill followed her to the kitchen, which she might have seen as a threat, so she hit him, and then decided to shoot him again.

[Adam]

In a Sheila guilty scenario, do you think that she would go off and reload? Or just continue her attack with what she had to hand.

I guess I'm thinking that a schizophrenic rage possibly doesn't allow the calmness of thought to decide to plan ahead and go downstairs to reload.

That is a good point.

Sheila in her crazy rage would just continue attacking Nevill upstairs once she ran out of bullets. Rather than go downstairs to reload.

[guest2181]

I agree Harters, I'm sure Nevill would have been very traumatised and as you say probably unable to think beyond his own flight or fight mechanism.

It's the same old thing though, none of us can really know.

I guess I could concoct a scenario where NB thought that his wife was already dead, he then decides to charge after her killer to exact revenge/judgement.

[guest2181]

Good question, and I'm not sure. Perhaps she didn't intend to reload, but then Nevill followed her to the kitchen, which she might have seen as a threat, so she hit him, and then decided to shoot him again.

I have to admit that I have no idea what a schizophrenic rage actually is though.

[Jane]

It's the same old thing though, none of us can really know.

I guess I could concoct a scenario where NB thought that his wife was already dead, he then decides to charge after her killer to exact revenge/judgement.

I guess such rules out the elusive "gun kept under the bed in case of foxes" theory?