Bullets fired and reloading

[Stephanie]

Do you have an alternative explanation?

Do you have an alternative explanation 

[Kaldin]

Do you have an alternative explanation 

That's what I asked you. You clearly don't then, you're just posting for the sake of it. If you don't have an alternative explanation, there was no need for you to say anything in response to my post.

[Stephanie]

That's what I asked you. You clearly don't then, you're just posting for the sake of it. If you don't have an alternative explanation, there was no need for you to say anything in response to my post.

I could come up with as many alternatives as you Kaldin and possibly more

The point it you are cherry picking as Mat has clearly pointed out to you

You ever - as I pointed out to you

If you want to have a sensible debate, you'll need to debate sensibly

[Kaldin]

I could come up with as many alternatives as you Kaldin and possibly more

The point it you are cherry picking as Mat has clearly pointed out to you

You ever - as I pointed out to you

If you want to have a sensible debate, you'll need to debate sensibly

You don't have an explanation then. You should have just said so. If you don't like my posts, feel free to go and post some more psychobabble.

[guest2181]

Anyway, here's what could have happened.

The killer goes upstairs and shoots June five times. Nevill is either in the room at the time or he's in the kitchen and goes upstairs. He's shot four times. The killer runs out of bullets, so he/she goes downstairs - possible to reload or possibly just to escape. Nevill follows the killer to the kitchen to disarm him/her, and that's when the "struggle" takes place. Nevill becomes unconscious or too badly hurt to be a danger to the killer, so the killer reloads the magazine and shoots Nevill four times. The missing empty cartridge is ejected or transferred upstairs somehow.

I have Neville being chased downstairs, rather than him pursuing the killer.

[lookout]

With the end of the rifle poking him in the neck-----yes that's the way I see it,poor chap.

[Kaldin]

I have Neville being chased downstairs, rather than him pursuing the killer.

That's what I used to think or assume Hartley. I'm not sure where the notion came from in the first place, but wasn't there an assumption that Nevill had been shot on the stairs which would imply that he was shot from behind whilst going down the stairs?

Now that there's confusion about the empty cartridge on the landing, I'm not at all sure that he was shot on the stairs.

I'm now considering that it was the killer who went down the stairs because he/she ran out of bullets, and that Nevill followed.

How quickly could Nevill have gone down the stairs? If the killer was Jeremy, surely he would have caught up with Nevill before he even got to the kitchen.

[guest2181]

That's what I used to think or assume Hartley. I'm not sure where the notion came from in the first place, but wasn't there an assumption that Nevill had been shot on the stairs which would imply that he was shot from behind whilst going down the stairs?

Now that there's confusion about the empty cartridge on the landing, I'm not at all sure that he was shot on the stairs.

I'm now considering that it was the killer who went down the stairs because he/she ran out of bullets, and that Nevill followed.

How quickly could Nevill have gone down the stairs? If the killer was Jeremy, surely he would have caught up with Nevill before he even got to the kitchen.

Personally, I still think he was in flight rather than in pursuit. I don't think he was in any fit state to have done anything if he caught up with the killer.

[lookout]

Kaldin,Nevill must have been quicker to have possibly phoned JB at that point,albeit hurriedly.
Even Nevill phoning a " killer " while being threatened  doesn't make sense to me.

[Stephanie]

Kaldin,Nevill must have been quicker to have possibly phoned JB at that point,albeit hurriedly.
Even Nevill phoning a " killer " while being threatened  doesn't make sense to me.

After Simon Hall murdered he alledgedly went home, sat and had a cup of tea with his Mum and a natter (looked fine, sounded fine) before he then went off up to bed

Read the evidence in the COA judgement

[Stephanie]

After Simon Hall murdered he alledgedly went home, sat and had a cup of tea with his Mum and a natter (looked fine, sounded fine) before he then went off up to bed

Read the evidence in the COA judgement

Doesn't make sense does it Lookout

Do you think Simon Hall looked fine and sounded fine after he'd murdered a defenceless 79 year old women in her own home - his mothers friend

He says he broke in to have sex with her dead body or rape her - pick the one that suits your theory

He then murdered her and mutilated her body after death

He then went home for a cup of tea and a chat. Do you believe that Lookout?


The point I'm making is you need to think outside the box and not judge Bamber nor indeed SC on what you would or would not have done

[Kaldin]

Personally, I still think he was in flight rather than in pursuit. I don't think he was in any fit state to have done anything if he caught up with the killer.

He wouldn't have been in a fit state to escape either. His aim would have been to stop the killer getting more bullets - he would have known the killer had run out.

[Stephanie]

He wouldn't have been in a fit state to escape either. His aim would have been to stop the killer getting more bullets - he would have known the killer had run out.

You know that HOW?

[lookout]

He wouldn't have been in a fit state to escape either. His aim would have been to stop the killer getting more bullets - he would have known the killer had run out.

None of them put up much of a fight did they ? No matter who it had been,I'd have left my mark on the killer,but JB went unscathed-----------even showing no signs of Sheila's " long,strong manicured nails " strange that or a couple of black eyes from Nevill.
3 adults ? It beggars belief really.

[Stephanie]

None of them put up much of a fight did they ? No matter who it had been,I'd have left my mark on the killer,but JB went unscathed-----------even showing no signs of Sheila's " long,strong manicured nails " strange that or a couple of black eyes from Nevill.
3 adults ? It beggars belief really.

How do you KNOW Jeremy Bamber was unscathed ?

How do we KNOW Somon Hall was unscathed and didn't have blood on him or his clothes?