Bullets fired and reloading

[Kaldin]

Making 26 shots? 

But 25 wounds to victims.

I think I'll have to go into the archives and read exactly where these cases were found. I could be some time - I think I'll leave it until tomorrow now.

[guest2181]

I think I'll have to go into the archives and read exactly where these cases were found. I could be some time - I think I'll leave it until tomorrow now.

Good luck. I'm confused a bit now. 

[guest7363]

Good luck. I'm confused a bit now. 

Wasnt the rifle known to jam sometimes Hartley?  Could the extra one be from that?

[guest2181]

Wasnt the rifle known to jam sometimes Hartley?  Could the extra one be from that?

If it's a spent shell case then it must be a fired bullet.

3 in kitchen.
1 on kitchen stairs.
8 in twins room.
14 in main bedroom/landing.

I wonder if a shot missed it's target and we've been calculating it wrong all these years, or one of the unshaded references in the bedroom is a bullet rather than a shell case. 

[guest7363]

If it's a spent shell case then it must be a fired bullet.

3 in kitchen.
1 on kitchen stairs.
8 in twins room.
14 in main bedroom/landing.

I wonder if a shot missed it's target and we've been calculating it wrong all these years, or one of the unshaded references in the bedroom is a bullet rather than a shell case. 

Thats what I was thinking, if it was a bullet unused, it maybe came from the rifle jamming?

[guest2181]

Thats what I was thinking, if it was a bullet unused, it maybe came from the rifle jamming?

It's 14 cases according to Hammersley.

I wonder what the reference was for the one on the kitchen stairs, that seems to be the rogue one which doesn't show up anywhere.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,373.msg5090.html#msg5090

[guest2181]

It's 14 cases according to Hammersley.

I wonder what the reference was for the one on the kitchen stairs, that seems to be the rogue one which doesn't show up anywhere.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,373.msg5090.html#msg5090

Which makes only three in the kitchen, but NB had four fatal shots. A case is either missing or has been relocated.

[David1819]

Yeah, I think the black shaded ones are bullets.

If I remember correctly the black shaded ones are samples of the carpet and bedsheets for blood testing. One of the DRH exhibits is two casings merged into one exhibit.

I could be wrong but that's how I remember it last time I looked.

[guest2181]

If I remember correctly the black shaded ones are samples of the carpet and bedsheets for blood testing. One of the DRH exhibits is two casings merged into one exhibit.

I could be wrong but that's how I remember it last time I looked.

You are incorrect David. They are bullets.

[David1819]

You are incorrect David. They are bullets.

So they are. I wonder what that arrow leading to DRH/5 is supposed to mean?

[guest2181]

So they are. I wonder what that arrow leading to DRH/5 is supposed to mean?

Could it be added by MT? I don't know.

[Kaldin]

It's 14 cases according to Hammersley.

I wonder what the reference was for the one on the kitchen stairs, that seems to be the rogue one which doesn't show up anywhere.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,373.msg5090.html#msg5090

Yes, I make it 14 cases in the bedroom or landing, 3 in the kitchen, and 8 in the twins' bedroom. That makes 25 altogether. However, the one on the kitchen stairs is not mentioned. That makes no sense because four of the shots to Nevill would have killed him quickly.

[Kaldin]

If the list of cases found is correct, we have a scenario where Nevill suffered a serious head wound from a bullet upstairs, and yet he managed to get downstairs.

In the appeal document, it says there were 13 cases in the bedroom or just outside it, and three in the kitchen, with a further one on the stairs leading from the kitchen.

One bullet case seems to have moved from the kitchen stairs to the bedroom at some point. 

[susan]

If the list of cases found is correct, we have a scenario where Nevill suffered a serious head wound from a bullet upstairs, and yet he managed to get downstairs.

In the appeal document, it says there were 13 cases in the bedroom or just outside it, and three in the kitchen, with a further one on the stairs leading from the kitchen.

One bullet case seems to have moved from the kitchen stairs to the bedroom at some point. 

Hi Kaldin
wow this is so strange is this the bullet case that was transferred on somebody's foot this has been posted Patti and hartley discussed the bullet casings in great length wish she was here

[guest2181]

Yes, I make it 14 cases in the bedroom or landing, 3 in the kitchen, and 8 in the twins' bedroom. That makes 25 altogether. However, the one on the kitchen stairs is not mentioned. That makes no sense because four of the shots to Nevill would have killed him quickly.

The only reference to the one on the kitchen stairs is what you had pointed out to me the other day.

If the kitchen stairs shell case is real, then does it point to a missed shot maybe?