Bullets fired and reloading

[guest2181]

I agree, but I'm trying to picture the scenario where the gun was reloaded and when it was reloaded.

It must have been reloaded at least twice.

It makes sense for one of the reloads to have been after the kitchen incident. Maybe both.

10 shots, then reloaded. 4 shots, then reloaded. With 1 in the breach that makes 25.

[Kaldin]

Had he been woken, and was out of bed but still in the bedroom maybe?

It's strange that the shell casings are all in that corner of the room.

If Jeremy did it, yes, I think Nevill had got out of bed just before he was shot. If Sheila did it, I think he had been downstairs to ring Jeremy, and then came back upstairs into the bedroom and was shot four times by Sheila.

I haven't even had much chance to look at the casings yet. I did so years ago, but I've forgotten their position now.

[Kaldin]

It must have been reloaded at least twice.

It makes sense for one of the reloads to have been after the kitchen incident. Maybe both.

10 shots, then reloaded. 4 shots, then reloaded. With 1 in the breach that makes 25.

I make it nine shots, reloaded with ten, four shots in the kitchen, possibly reloaded with another four, making ten in total in the second lot, then eight for the twins and two more for June. The reloaded again - with two bullets? That seems a bit strange to me.

I'm not sure about putting another one in the breach really.

[guest2181]

If Jeremy did it, yes, I think Nevill had got out of bed just before he was shot. If Sheila did it, I think he had been downstairs to ring Jeremy, and then came back upstairs into the bedroom and was shot four times by Sheila.

I haven't even had much chance to look at the casings yet. I did so years ago, but I've forgotten their position now.

I'll dig out the diagram, but from memory there are two near Sheila. Two on the landing (apparently associated with June), 9 in the corner of the main bedroom on Junes side, 8 in the kids room, 3 in the kitchen and 1 on the kitchen stairs.

[guest2181]

I make it nine shots, reloaded with ten, four shots in the kitchen, possibly reloaded with another four, making ten in total in the second lot, then eight for the twins and two more for June. The reloaded again - with two bullets? That seems a bit strange to me.

I'm not sure about putting another one in the breach really.

If you reload the magazine having already fired the rifle but not emptied the magazine, then a bullet will automatically be in the breach.

[Kaldin]

I'll dig out the diagram, but from memory there are two near Sheila. Two on the landing (apparently associated with June), 9 in the corner of the main bedroom on Junes side, 8 in the kids room, 3 in the kitchen and 1 on the kitchen stairs.

When the cases are ejected, how far out to the right do they go? I suppose we have to take into account the possibility of them bouncing off objects.

[guest2181]

When the cases are ejected, how far out to the right do they go? I suppose we have to take into account the possibility of them bouncing off objects.

I personally don't know, but Fletcher says (again from memory) about 4-6 feet.

[Kaldin]

I personally don't know, but Fletcher says (again from memory) about 4-6 feet.

Quite a long way then. I'll have to take that into account when I think about it.

[guest2181]

Quite a long way then. I'll have to take that into account when I think about it.

This is the bedroom, they say the shots were fired from the shaded area.

[Kaldin]

Are the ones without black shading the cases? If so, there are too many - there are fourteen.

[guest2181]

Are the ones without black shading the cases? If so, there are too many - there are fourteen.

Yeah, I think the black shaded ones are bullets.

[Kaldin]

I can't make sense of that - there are fourteen cases then.

[guest2181]

I can't make sense of that - there are fourteen cases then.

Seems to be 1 extra.

[Kaldin]

Seems to be 1 extra.

Exactly. 

[guest2181]

Exactly. 

Making 26 shots? 

But 25 wounds to victims.