Sheila showering & changing after the 4x massacre & before the police arrived:

[Adam]

Correct me if I am wrong, but only a few people have said Sheila had a shower & changed after killing 4 people - Lebaleb, Sherlock, Susan & Lookout.

I have asked David several times whether he believes Sheila had a shower & changed clothes but he has always refused to answer.

The OS does mention the possibility of Sheila having a shower & changing but does not make an all out committment to this.

There are several problems with Sheila showering & changing -

There were big time restrictions.

Why did Sheila change into the exact same clothes she would have slept in ?

How did Sheila calm down sufficiently to have a shower ?

What religious book was Sheila a passionate reader of which made her do this ?

Where were the blood soaked, dirty & damaged clothes Sheila wore during the massacre ?

Why would Sheila have shower ?

Why did Sheila read the bible before having a shower ?

Having a shower does not remove a lot of evidence. So where is the evidence on Sheila ?

Sheila couldn't have a shower & remove some evidence after shooting herself twice.



On the other hand there are several problems with Sheila not showering & changing -

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No broken nails - Not disputed COA.

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA.

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA.

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA.

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

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I know supporters are in a tight spot with this. But an answer must be given.

Do people believe Sheila had a shower & changed after the massacre ?

[lookout]

I would have said that she had showered,leaving the shower room in disarray with the shower head broken off. Probably before eating her last snack I imagine.

[Stephanie]

Correct me if I am wrong, but only a few people have said Sheila had a shower & changed after killing 4 people - Lebaleb, Sherlock, Susan & Lookout.

I have asked David several times whether he believes Sheila had a shower & changed clothes but he has always refused to answer.

The OS does mention the possibility of Sheila having a shower & changing but does not make an all out committment to this.

There are several problems with Sheila showering & changing -

There were big time restrictions.

Why did Sheila change into the exact same clothes she would have slept in ?

How did Sheila calm down sufficiently to have a shower ?

What religious book was Sheila a passionate reader of which made her do this ?

Where were the blood soaked, dirty & damaged clothes Sheila wore during the massacre ?

Why would Sheila have shower ?

Why did Sheila read the bible before having a shower ?

Having a shower does not remove a lot of evidence. So where is the evidence on Sheila ?

Sheila couldn't have a shower & remove some evidence after shooting herself twice.



On the other hand there are several problems with Sheila not showering & changing -

Well manicured nails on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No broken nails - Not disputed COA.

Nails in tact - Not disputed - COA.

No marks or indentations on Sheila's fingers - Not disputed - COA.

No blood on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No dirt on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No powder on finger tips - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of any lead dust coating on Sheila - Not disputed - COA.

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice - Not disputed - COA

Very clean feet - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

Feet free from significant blood staining - Disputed with one picture of foot with redness - COA.

No debris such as sugar on feet - Not disputed - COA.

No foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress - Not disputed - COA.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight - Not disputed - COA.

No facial injuries on Sheila - Not disputed - PHOTOGRAPHS.

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I know supporters are in a tight spot with this. But an answer must be given.

Do people believe Sheila had a shower & changed after the massacre ?

David won't answer tricky questions Adam because he hasn't yet figured it all out.

Sheila didn't shower. She was asleep when Bamber started shooting. Plus, on top of her existing meds that weakened her and made her drowsy, she was menstruating which any women knows drains the life out of you. She would have been totally knackered and weak.

She'd have most probably showered before she went to bed, then Bam! She wouldn't have known what hit her. At least I like to think she wouldn't. 

[Kaldin]

I think it's unlikely that she had a shower. She might have washed her hands and her feet though. By the way, in the appeal document it says her feet had no blood on them - that's not true - at least one of them had blood on it.

[Stephanie]

David won't answer tricky questions Adam because he hasn't yet figured it all out.

Sheila didn't shower. She was asleep when Bamber started shooting. Plus, on top of her existing meds that weakened her and made her drowsy, she was menstruating which any women knows drains the life out of you. She would have been totally knackered and weak.

She'd have most probably showered before she went to bed, then Bam! She wouldn't have known what hit her. At least I like to think she wouldn't. 

Adam, Sheila's iron levels would have been low due to her period. Amd low iron levels equal tiredness/exhaustion.

[Kaldin]

She was in the early stage of her period - that wouldn't necessarily wear someone out. Not all women react in the same way during periods anyway.

[lookout]

David won't answer tricky questions Adam because he hasn't yet figured it all out.

Sheila didn't shower. She was asleep when Bamber started shooting. Plus, on top of her existing meds that weakened her and made her drowsy, she was menstruating which any women knows drains the life out of you. She would have been totally knackered and weak.

She'd have most probably showered before she went to bed, then Bam! She wouldn't have known what hit her. At least I like to think she wouldn't. 

So JB would have stood around waiting for his sister to finish showering ?

[guest2181]

I think it's unlikely that she had a shower. She might have washed her hands and her feet though. By the way, in the appeal document it says her feet had no blood on them - that's not true - at least one of them had blood on it.

Do you conclude that because you believe you have seen a photograph of her foot?

[Adam]

I would have said that she had showered,leaving the shower room in disarray with the shower head broken off. Probably before eating her last snack I imagine.

The last snack. Is that in the bible Sheila never used to read as well ?

[Stephanie]

So JB would have stood around waiting for his sister to finish showering ?

What do you mean?

[Adam]

I think it's unlikely that she had a shower. She might have washed her hands and her feet though. By the way, in the appeal document it says her feet had no blood on them - that's not true - at least one of them had blood on it.

You said she would have washed her feet.

Well there is one photo of a foot with speks of redness.

[lookout]

The last snack. Is that in the bible Sheila never used to read as well ?

I was referring to her stomach contents. Of which there wouldn't have been had she have eaten at the same time as the others.

[Stephanie]

So JB would have stood around waiting for his sister to finish showering ?

I think it's safe to say Jeremy launched his attack on his family when they had all retired to bed

Sheila had taken her shower before putting on her night dress and climbing into bed

[Kaldin]

Do you conclude that because you believe you have seen a photograph of her foot?

Is this not her foot?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=887.0;attach=34137;image

[Kaldin]

You said she would have washed her feet.

Well there is one photo of a foot with speks of redness. Although Sheila's feet in the pictures of her laying down look spotless.

No, I said she might have washed her feet. I'm just thinking about that shower head which was hanging loose or whatever it was doing.