Sheila living her life according to the bible. Sources required.

[Adam]

Sheila must have lived her life according to the bible.

In the middle of a psychotic murder/suicide she was mindful & motivated enough to stop & look for a bible.

She was then knowledgable enough to know the exact pages she wanted to read. From someone else's bible.  Prior to her aledged shower & definate suicide.

After a brutal fight & firing 24 bullets into 4 people, she was able to calm herself down sufficently from a violent psychotic episode to sit down on the floor & read a bible. Prior to the police arriving. 

Surprisingly for a dedicated bible reader,  she did not read her own bible, but June's who she had just shot 7 times. After a 4x murder & forthcoming suicide, you would expect you would want to read you're own bible.

Obviously a source needs to be supplied that Sheila lived her life according to the bible. I have never read anything saying this. I did ask for sources yesterday after Sherlock claimed the page the bible was open at shows Sheila was the killer.

Yesterday I was just told June may have told Sheila about religious matters, people were apparently more religious in 1985 & people are for some reason made aware of psalm 51 (not me). Everyone will agree these are too vague,  hopeful & not specific sources on Sheila.   

Bob Miller said Bamber put the bible on Sheila's arm 'for the police's benefit'. It does look very much like a stone wall plant. However this will change when sources are supplied.

[Adam]

June may have told both Sheila & Bamber about religious matters when they were children. But not murder/suicide.

It didn't do Bamber any good. He wasn't religious in the slightest & called June a 'religious maniac'.

Sheila wasn't too keen on June either. She shot her 7 times as she slept. There is so far no evidence Sheila was a dedicated & passionate bible reader. 

Hopefully a source will be supplied now that Sheila lived her life according to the bible.

Otherwise there is a simple explanation. Bamber put the bible on Sheila's arm. 

[Adam]

Sherlock's vague sources yesterday were -

June perhaps telling Sheila about religion & relating it to murder/suicide.

People apparently being more religious in 1985.

People in general apparently being made aware of psalm 51.

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These are sources optimistically suggesting Sheila may have been aware of religion in the bible. 

However they are not sources showing Sheila had lived her life for years after leaving WHF,  according to the bible.

[lookout]

June lived her life by the Bible. It was her who'd been diagnosed with " religious psychosis " not Sheila. Religious psychosis happens to be the most difficult of mental health issues to treat. Sheila's,in time,would/could have been contained if follow-ups and appointments had been adhered to.
Sheila did not display any religious rantings when she and Colin lived as a couple both before and during their marriage. It was only on her visits to WHF that she'd be drawn in to the preachings from her mother who was the sick one,not Sheila.

[Adam]

June lived her life by the Bible. It was her who'd been diagnosed with " religious psychosis " not Sheila. Religious psychosis happens to be the most difficult of mental health issues to treat. Sheila's,in time,would/could have been contained if follow-ups and appointments had been adhered to.
Sheila did not display any religious rantings when she and Colin lived as a couple both before and during their marriage. It was only on her visits to WHF that she'd be drawn in to the preachings from her mother who was the sick one,not Sheila.

Do you think Bamber put the bible on Sheila ?

It couldn't have just fallen on her arm at the exact same page Sherlock says shows Sheila is the killer.

[lookout]

Do you think Bamber put the bible on Sheila ?

It couldn't have just fallen on her arm at the exact same page Sherlock says shows Sheila is the killer.

No I don't think " Bamber put the Bible on Sheila " at all------he wasn't there to do so. I'd have said it had originally been thrown down,not this particular one,but the older one of Junes. The Bible in this picture was one that Sheila obviously had to use on her visits to WHF.

[Jane]

June lived her life by the Bible. It was her who'd been diagnosed with " religious psychosis " not Sheila. Religious psychosis happens to be the most difficult of mental health issues to treat. Sheila's,in time,would/could have been contained if follow-ups and appointments had been adhered to.
Sheila did not display any religious rantings when she and Colin lived as a couple both before and during their marriage. It was only on her visits to WHF that she'd be drawn in to the preachings from her mother who was the sick one,not Sheila.

You repeatedly say that Sheila wasn't sick so how do you explain the psychosis you claim her to be afflicted with?

[Adam]

No I don't think " Bamber put the Bible on Sheila " at all------he wasn't there to do so. I'd have said it had originally been thrown down,not this particular one,but the older one of Junes. The Bible in this picture was one that Sheila obviously had to use on her visits to WHF.

Sorry I forgot. Bamber was at home sleeping.

So after a 4x murder, Sheila didn't calm down, find June's bible, open it to a specific page & read it.

I agree with you as no source has been supplied that Sheila was an avid & passionate bible follower.

So another bible had been thrown down but not the one in the picture. Who put the one in the picture on Sheila's arm ?

[lookout]

Sheila and her mother were both in the bedroom. The scuffle was between the two of them. Nobody else.

[Adam]

Sheila and her mother were both in the bedroom. The scuffle was between the two of them. Nobody else.

Do you not think Sheila read the bible after the 4 murders ?

I don't know why she would. There is no evidence she was a bible fanatic.

[lookout]

Do you not think Sheila read the bible after the 4 murders ?

I don't know why she would. There is no evidence she was a bible fanatic.

Then why insist that Sheila had been religious ?

[Adam]

Then why insist that Sheila had been religious ?

I never said Sheila was religious.

Obviously a bible being on her arm & open on a page Sherlock believes is significant, suggests Sheila was a fanatical bible reader. So sources are needed showing this. So far none have ever been supplied.

The other option is Bamber put the bible there.

[lookout]

I never said Sheila was religious.

Obviously a bible being on her arm & open a page Sherlock believes is significant, suggests Sheila was a fanatical bible reader. So sources are needed showing this. So far none have ever been supplied.

The other option is Bamber put the bible there.

Oh dear,we're in denial now.

[Adam]

No sources have been supplied that Sheila was -

Knowledgable enough to know what page to look for in another persons bible.

Was instantly calm enough to find, sit down & read the bible. Straight after a psychotic multiple murder.

Was a fanatical bible reader & lived her life according to the bible.

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Sherlock does state the bible was open at significant pages. Right on Sheila's arm. 

The only plausible explanation is Bamber investigated beforehand. On the massacre night he found, opened & laid the bible on Sheila's arm.

It's called a plant.

[sherlock]

No sources have been supplied that Sheila was -

Knowledgable enough to know what page to look for in another persons bible.

Was instantly calm enough to find, sit down & read the bible. Straight after a psychotic multiple murder.

Was a fanatical bible reader & lived her life according to the bible.

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Sherlock does state the bible was open at significant pages. Right on Sheila's arm. 

The only plausible explanation is Bamber investigated beforehand. On the massacre night he found, opened & laid the bible on Sheila's arm.

It's called a plant.

I am a bit busy - I will be back to answer every ones questions as soon as possible ...

The relevance of Psalm 51 can be accepted by people who believe Jeremy is guilty and by people who consider Jeremy innocent without it changing their position.

That version of the Bible found has I believe 960 pages.

Psalm 51 is the only page that can give comfort to a murderer.

See the link Steve put up again and read it carefully.

The relevance of Psalm 51 was used as evidence in that murder trial.

It is the only passage (as the guy says in that case) to give comfort to a murderer

There is only a 1 in 960 chance that the bloodstains were on that page by coincidence.

You choose whether you think it was open at Psalm 51 because of Jeremy or because of Sheila

But please look at this very carefully and accept it was blood stained at Psalm 51 for a reason.

After you have considered it very carefully I would be interested to hear what every one thinks ...