The Bible

[Caroline]

The one which Roch referred to - alongside.

Which is?

[Caroline]

DI Cook moved her hand because he wanted to see under her wrist. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jan/30/jeremy-bamber-appeal-murders-evidence

He stated that he didn't move the gun until Bird had finished photographing her - why would he admit to moving her arm but not the rifle? All he had to say was that he needed to make it safe. Once again we have people lying for no reason.

[Kaldin]

Which is?

Rather than along the length of whatever it is.

[Caroline]

Rather than along the length of whatever it is.

Soz, don't understand you answer?

[Kaldin]

Soz, don't understand you answer?

One of the photos of Sheila is taken from above, and the other is taken from the side and slightly above

[Caroline]

One of the photos of Sheila is taken from above, and the other is taken from the side and slightly above

OK, will try and replicate - but not tonight

[Kaldin]

OK, will try and replicate - but not tonight

OK - thanks.

[lookout]

Photo's in the archives show Sheila's arm clearly in two positions with one showing her arm bent.

[lookout]

The " scene " showing Sheila had been staged. If anything,the Bible would have been on/near June as she'd been the religious one not Sheila,. Something which wouldn't have been known at that time by those who didn't know Sheila.

[lookout]

When Sheila,Colin and the twins were living as a family,it was a " religion free " household and one in which Colin had been more than happy with,Sheila too,not to mention the twins freedom from kneeling and praying at every given moment.

[Jane]

When Sheila,Colin and the twins were living as a family,it was a " religion free " household and one in which Colin had been more than happy with,Sheila too,not to mention the twins freedom from kneeling and praying at every given moment.

Aren't you forgetting her claims, whilst in hospital, of having found God? Didn't she say it made easier her relationship with June?

[lookout]

Aren't you forgetting her claims, whilst in hospital, of having found God? Didn't she say it made easier her relationship with June?

Sick people usually say that they " have found God ". It's just something they say ( if you've ever been familiar with such people )
Sheila had probably felt it " necessary " rather than a given when it came to her relationship with her mother. More to keep the peace than anything else.   
The Bible in question looked as though it had been thrown about,so a row had definitely flared up that night.

[Jane]

Sick people usually say that they " have found God ". It's just something they say ( if you've ever been familiar with such people )
Sheila had probably felt it " necessary " rather than a given when it came to her relationship with her mother. More to keep the peace than anything else.   
The Bible in question looked as though it had been thrown about,so a row had definitely flared up that night.

I'd go along with it had you said it was something they believe. Will you be trying to say that June was just faking her religious beliefs, too? I have personal dealings with someone who was paranoid -probably as a result of a drug fueled youth- the church has changed him in a way that, I don't believe, counselling alone, could have. Who am I to say whether or not it's real? It's real for him. It's changed his life. That's all that matters.

[lookout]

I'd go along with it had you said it was something they believe. Will you be trying to say that June was just faking her religious beliefs, too? I have personal dealings with someone who was paranoid -probably as a result of a drug fueled youth- the church has changed him in a way that, I don't believe, counselling alone, could have. Who am I to say whether or not it's real? It's real for him. It's changed his life. That's all that matters.

No,far from it,June was the sick one out of the two women,who force-fed religion ( psychological abuse ) on to Sheila when she was a child,then every step of the way up to the disaster. Even those little boys suffered,which I thought was cruel and it's no wonder Colin kicked off.
June's religion was definitely real-------Sheila had hallucinated to appease her. It must have been like an asylum inside WHF that night and makes me feel quite sick thinking about it knowing how severe mental health can strike. Horrendous.

[Jane]

No,far from it,June was the sick one out of the two women,who force-fed religion ( psychological abuse ) on to Sheila when she was a child,then every step of the way up to the disaster. Even those little boys suffered,which I thought was cruel and it's no wonder Colin kicked off.
June's religion was definitely real-------Sheila had hallucinated to appease her. It must have been like an asylum inside WHF that night and makes me feel quite sick thinking about it knowing how severe mental health can strike. Horrendous.

So Sheila was hospitalized for no reason whatsoever? Sheila decided to 'play act' her breakdowns? Sheila was never mentally ill? All done to satisfy June?