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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #180 on: October 22, 2017, 12:53:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 22, 2017, 12:51:PM
How do we know that Millbank sat patiently listening ? Or that he heard something and never let on.?
We don't know,nor do we know if it's Millbank himself who's come forward. Someone has.

Why wouldn't he 'let on'?

Someone has always come forward - I don't believe that anyone has.
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« Reply #181 on: October 22, 2017, 12:58:PM »
Jean Rowe said she heard movement at one point, but that could have been the dog.
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« Reply #182 on: October 22, 2017, 01:24:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on October 22, 2017, 12:53:PM
Why wouldn't he 'let on'?

Someone has always come forward - I don't believe that anyone has.








In a situation such as it is with a likely appeal,it doesn't do to say,or indeed leak anything--------for obvious reasons.
No details will be given if those details involve a witness.I know it's frustrating but all that can occasionally happen is that there have been or are " hints " of things to come.

The media are like vultures as we all know and if anything was leaked that they were bound to get hold of,that's game over once again.They'd turn a sentence into a full page. It only needs a name. 
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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #183 on: October 22, 2017, 05:57:PM »
Quote from: lookout on October 22, 2017, 01:24:PM







In a situation such as it is with a likely appeal,it doesn't do to say,or indeed leak anything--------for obvious reasons.
No details will be given if those details involve a witness.I know it's frustrating but all that can occasionally happen is that there have been or are " hints " of things to come.

The media are like vultures as we all know and if anything was leaked that they were bound to get hold of,that's game over once again.They'd turn a sentence into a full page. It only needs a name.

A likely appeal? They haven't even sent in submissions yet. I'm not frustrated to find out if someone has come forward because I don't think they have. I  agree though, it is a game!
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« Reply #184 on: October 22, 2017, 06:41:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on October 22, 2017, 05:57:PM
A likely appeal? They haven't even sent in submissions yet. I'm not frustrated to find out if someone has come forward because I don't think they have. I  agree though, it is a game!






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« Reply #185 on: October 22, 2017, 08:42:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on October 22, 2017, 12:46:PM
How does this mean a 999 call was made?

It's factually incorrect.
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« Reply #186 on: October 22, 2017, 08:56:PM »
Look at the date on Burrell's statement. 
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Offline David1819

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« Reply #187 on: October 22, 2017, 09:26:PM »
Quote from: Roch on October 22, 2017, 08:42:PM
It's factually incorrect.

How so?
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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #188 on: October 23, 2017, 12:02:AM »
Quote from: Roch on October 22, 2017, 08:42:PM
It's factually incorrect.

Glad you agree - no 999 call was made!
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Offline lookout

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« Reply #189 on: October 23, 2017, 10:24:AM »
Who's worked this out ?
If those attached to the CT team ( legals ) have actually established that there was a call,who are we to argue that there wasn't ?
They have explained their part in saying that there was such a call,so where are the explanations here in saying that there wasn't ?
Just a simple explanation will suffice.
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Offline Adam

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« Reply #190 on: October 23, 2017, 10:49:AM »
Hopefully Mike can clarify if there was a 999 call at 6.09am.
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« Reply #191 on: October 23, 2017, 10:59:AM »
Quote from: lookout on October 23, 2017, 10:24:AM
Who's worked this out ?
If those attached to the CT team ( legals ) have actually established that there was a call,who are we to argue that there wasn't ?
They have explained their part in saying that there was such a call,so where are the explanations here in saying that there wasn't ?
Just a simple explanation will suffice.

The WS makes it abundantly clear that it was they -HQ- who made a 999 link from an open line, which is entirely different from saying a 999 call was made from anyone at WHF. HAD such been so, the line would already have been linked to Emergency Services.
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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #192 on: October 23, 2017, 11:17:AM »
Quote from: lookout on October 23, 2017, 10:24:AM
Who's worked this out ?
If those attached to the CT team ( legals ) have actually established that there was a call,who are we to argue that there wasn't ?
They have explained their part in saying that there was such a call,so where are the explanations here in saying that there wasn't ?
Just a simple explanation will suffice.

Jeremy has a legal team and a CT, the CT and his legal team have never had much in common in the past, I would think that would still be the same.

Who are we to argue with expert opinion? Perhaps you would do well to remember that when you question the findings of Ferguson in respect to Sheila's illness.
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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #193 on: October 23, 2017, 11:18:AM »
Quote from: Roch on October 22, 2017, 08:56:PM
Look at the date on Burrell's statement.

And?
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Offline lookout

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« Reply #194 on: October 23, 2017, 11:26:AM »
Quote from: Caroline on October 23, 2017, 11:17:AM
Jeremy has a legal team and a CT, the CT and his legal team have never had much in common in the past, I would think that would still be the same.

Who are we to argue with expert opinion? Perhaps you would do well to remember that when you question the findings of Ferguson in respect to Sheila's illness.







Don't worry,I had my own arguments/differences in mind when I asked those questions just to see if there were any contradictory answers. There's always a method in my questioning,which comes of having a good memory of past things that others have posted.
However,I did ask for an explanation on why you say that there was no phone-call,and not my personal version of diagnoses and medication in opposition to Ferguson which I look upon as a " get-out " for your answer.
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