Yvonne Hartley

[lookout]

She didn't know MM - Jeremy did. What would be the point of naming someone else? It's a big sticking point in Julie's story (supposedly to frame Jeremy as a woman scored) that she didn't just name Bamber isn't it? Fact is, she wouldn't have mentioned MM unless someone had told her.

" pulled out of a hat " was the clue to what you've posted.

[Jane]

" pulled out of a hat " was the clue to what you've posted.

As she didn't know the guy, it's very strange that it was his name she pulled from a hat. Naming someone else, anyway, hardly fits with the version of her ratting on Jeremy out of revenge because he'd cheated on her. Surely, it would have been Jeremy she wanted to get into trouble, NOT a guy she didn't even know?

[lookout]

As she didn't know the guy, it's very strange that it was his name she pulled from a hat. Naming someone else, anyway, hardly fits with the version of her ratting on Jeremy out of revenge because he'd cheated on her. Surely, it would have been Jeremy she wanted to get into trouble, NOT a guy she didn't even know?

Him cheating on her was the gist of JM's plan,but it went further than she'd anticipated as I'm sure her anger and revenge didn't want to go as far as it did.
JM has not yet answered yay or nay concerning a question which was put to her,I quote, " You weren't altogether truthful in your testimony were you ?",unquote. This was asked of her by xxx xxxxxxxx,and no answer came the firm reply.

[lookout]

I'd like to know more about that - I can't find any reference to it anywhere.

The information is from a poster who's involved with the CT--------he's done a lot of research over the years and I'm sure he'd furnish the information if you contacted him.

[maggie]

I am locking this thread while I remove some posts.  This argument has little or nothing to do with the debate.  Please try to keep to the subject and avoid personal squabbles.

[Roch]

The operator couldn't do what Burrell is suggesting. However she did manage to make a link using a different method, a short while prior to 6.09.

[Kaldin]

The operator couldn't do what Burrell is suggesting. However she did manage to make a link using a different method, a short while prior to 6.09.

Yes, I read the statement of the operator, and she had to use a different method. Anyway, the police managed to connect with 999 or something. That doesn't mean there was a 999 call from the farm.

[Jane]

Yes, I read the statement of the operator, and she had to use a different method. Anyway, the police managed to connect with 999 or something. That doesn't mean there was a 999 call from the farm.

But it IS being presented as meaning such.

[Kaldin]

But it IS being presented as meaning such.

Only by Mike, as far as I can see, and that was a while ago.

[Roch]

Yes, I read the statement of the operator, and she had to use a different method. Anyway, the police managed to connect with 999 or something. That doesn't mean there was a 999 call from the farm.

The operator couldn't patch the call through using 999. She made the connection using another method approx 6.05am.  it is Met Operation Stokenchurch police who noted that a 999 call had been made at 6.09am. The CT have merely parroted Met police internal memos.

[Kaldin]

The operator couldn't patch the call through using 999. She made the connection using another method approx 6.05am.  it is Met Operation Stokenchurch police who noted that a 999 call had been made at 6.09am. The CT have merely parroted Met police internal memos.

Yes, I did this post in another thread where the 999 call is also being discussed.

Jean Rowe was the operator who checked the line to the farm and said it was open and that the phone was off the hook. She said that the police asked her to connect the phone to police headquarters so they could monitor it. She said she was not allowed to engage the emergency police line, but she connected it in some other way. I don't understand how it all works, but it seems that the police were connected and then fiddled with the line themselves in order to monitor it.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4949.msg209640.html#msg209640

[lookout]

So at 05.50 the line was re-connected again. Doesn't that in itself say that someone was still alive at that time when JB had been outside for ages ? It does to me.

[Kaldin]

So at 05.50 the line was re-connected again. Doesn't that in itself say that someone was still alive at that time when JB had been outside for ages ? It does to me.

I don't know enough about how these things work to comment really. There was talk of the engaged tone at some point.

[Caroline]

How does this mean a 999 call was made?

[lookout]

How do we know that Millbank sat patiently listening ? Or that he heard something and never let on.?
We don't know,nor do we know if it's Millbank himself who's come forward. Someone has.