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« Reply #120 on: September 14, 2017, 09:42:PM »




My alternative would have been a tin of paint.

A lot of use that would be when the caravan was disintegrating. It's perfectly understandable that site owners don't want old and tatty vans on sight, NOR do other van owners. If the site starts to look run down, it discourages others from wanting to holiday there.

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« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2017, 11:13:PM »
oh i see so how people who have abslutly nothing to gain are lying.

but people with a shit load of cash to gain must be telling the truth.

guilter logic you cant beat it.

What did Julie have to gain by setting Bamber up for Murder?
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« Reply #122 on: September 15, 2017, 12:13:AM »
What did Julie have to gain by setting Bamber up for Murder?

all charges against her dropped and 25 thousand pounds.

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« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2017, 12:37:AM »
all charges against her dropped and 25 thousand pounds.

What charges ? The police didn't know about anything until she told them or until after she completed her WS.

New answer please.
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« Reply #124 on: September 15, 2017, 12:41:AM »
What charges ? The police didn't know about anything until she told them or until after she completed her WS.

New answer please.

how do you know they dident.

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« Reply #127 on: September 15, 2017, 01:19:AM »
oh a link to to one of your own posts I see.

Yes. Confirming she had nothing to gain by approaching the police.

The 25k was offerred to her over a year afterwards. During the trial.

The only thing Julie had to gain was to get revenge because Bamber apparently jilted her & she was totally devastated & psychotic.

We've all been there - get jilted, then seek revenge by trying to single handedly frame ex partner of committing murder.
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« Reply #128 on: September 15, 2017, 01:37:AM »
Yes. Confirming she had nothing to gain by approaching the police.

The 25k was offerred to her over a year afterwards. During the trial.

The only thing Julie had to gain was to get revenge because Bamber apparently jilted her & she was totally devastated & psychotic.

We've all been there - get jilted, then seek revenge by trying to single handedly frame ex partner of committing murder.

a link to one of your own posts confirms absolutely sod all other than complete desperation.

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« Reply #129 on: September 15, 2017, 02:24:AM »
all charges against her dropped and 25 thousand pounds.

She had no newspaper deal at that point and what charges? She told them about the cheque book fraud, they didn't know about it until she told them.
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« Reply #130 on: September 15, 2017, 02:27:AM »
What did Julie have to gain by setting Bamber up for Murder?

You really know better than to ask a question like that.

As you well know, it was Liz Rimmington and not Julie Mugford who went to the police. Mugford probably only meant to spread rumors but, as you put it, got more than she bargained for.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,497.msg218911.html#msg218911

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Julie fed both Liz Rimmington and Susan Battersby JUST enough info to make them believe Jeremy was responsible. She probably didn't think that LR would call the police but simply wanted to drip feed a little poison so there would always be doubt in the minds of people he knew - I'd say that was revenge!! She got a LOT more than she bargained for!!

The police were already trying to form a case against Bamber before Julie Mugford showed up. By then DCI Thomas "Taff" Jones had already been replaced by Mike Ainsley. The investigation of Bamber with a view to charging him had already begun. They weren't going to let her off the hook. Once they had her cornered she had to go along with their plans to save herself.
 
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« Reply #131 on: September 15, 2017, 08:29:AM »
Supporters cling to the point that Liz Rimmington rang the police. After Julie had told her (& 4 other people) what she knew. Where was Julie ? Oh yes she was in the same room as Liz Rimmington.

Julie then told the police everything she knew regarding the case & Bamber's caravan break in.

The police found out about the 1984 minor cheque book fraud a long time after she had completed her WS. This crime was nothing to do with the massacre.
 
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« Reply #132 on: September 15, 2017, 08:35:AM »
Witnesses in criminal trials don't tell the police about their non related crimes they have committed from months or years ago. Espescially if it's a minor crime & they hadn't been caught. 

So I don't see why Julie should have brought up her minor cheque book fraud, which was nothing to do with the massacre.
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« Reply #133 on: September 15, 2017, 09:08:AM »
Revenge attacks on all sides I'd have said. Each person had an axe to grind in one way and another, from EP who " didn't like Jeremy  ::) ",JM who Jeremy had dumped and the relatives of course who couldn't bear the thought of JB ruling the roost. Plenty of motives there to get rid of the man.

How folk can live their lives full of revenge,I'll never know-----------lack of a conscience and nil emotions !

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« Reply #134 on: September 15, 2017, 09:14:AM »
Revenge attacks on all sides I'd have said. Each person had an axe to grind in one way and another, from EP who " didn't like Jeremy  ::) ",JM who Jeremy had dumped and the relatives of course who couldn't bear the thought of JB ruling the roost. Plenty of motives there to get rid of the man.

How folk can live their lives full of revenge,I'll never know-----------lack of a conscience and nil emotions !

You obviously believe there was an industrial frame.
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