Yvonne Hartley

[Caroline]

"A straw man is a logical fallacy which occurs when a debater intentionally misrepresents their opponent's argument as a weaker version, and rebuts said version — rather than their opponent's genuine argument. Intentional strawmanning is usually done with a certain goal in mind, including:

1.Avoiding real debate against an opponent's real argument, because the misrepresenter risks losing in fair debate

2.Making the opponent's position appear ridiculous as a way of poisoning the well"

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Straw_man

You need to take a long hard look at what you post because more than ANYONE, the above applies to you. The fact that you can't even see that. speaks volumes!

[nugnug]

ive completly lost track of this thread what were we talking about agian.

[David1819]

You need to take a long hard look at what you post because more than ANYONE, the above applies to you. The fact that you can't even see that. speaks volumes!

I cannot see it because it's simply not true.

[David1819]

This image shows some of the tracks and private roads across the fields.
Who knows which route he took, if any.

The sea wall route seems the easiest. Just go along it then straight up. The 'shortcuts' look like more like a hassle and way to get lost imo.

[petey]

Yes maybe the bike was used.

I'm not sure that your reliance on rules and averages is sound.

I live exactly 1 mile from town. It should take me 21 minutes by your calculations, I do it in 13 minutes at a brisk walk, or when out running I do it in 5-6 minutes.

The various routes from WHF, are mostly made up of gravel farm tracks rather than rough ground. Applying somebody's mathematical equation sounds really clever, but I don't think it's particularly relevant.

Good running pace 😊 Come and run London marathon with me next year 😉

[nugnug]

The sea wall route seems the easiest. Just go along it then straight up. The 'shortcuts' look like more like a hassle and way to get lost imo.

but as Barbra DEath pointed out the fight fisherman would of seen him.

[Caroline]

The sea wall route seems the easiest. Just go along it then straight up. The 'shortcuts' look like more like a hassle and way to get lost imo.

How can you 'get lost' in a place you had lived and worked for most of your life?

[nugnug]

How can you 'get lost' in a place you had lived and worked for most of your life?

in the dark yes easily.

[Adam]

It's been established that Bamber could spend 15 minutes cycling on one of the several tracks to/from WHF without being seen or attacked by lions.

The claim now is he would get lost in the 3 miles between where he currently lived, & where he currently worked & used to live.

[lookout]

How can you 'get lost' in a place you had lived and worked for most of your life?

Some people's sense of direction is bad enough in daylight 

[nugnug]

and id imagene walking in the pitch dark wasnt somthing he would of done often  especally if you own a car.

i mean driving around the area and walking around it a very diffrent.

[Jane]

and id imagene walking in the pitch dark wasnt somthing he would of done often  especally if you own a car.

i mean driving around the area and walking around it a very diffrent.

Oh! C'mon Nugs. Apart from not being born there, he'd lived there ALL his life. The people who owned the nearby farms were neighbours. It's unlikely the Bambers would have used the main road to get to them. The seawall was where he'd have been taken for walks as a child. We're talking about a radius of a few miles. Home territory. Waffle all you want, but you're NOT going to persuade anyone that he'd get lost walking those fields at night, OR lose all sense of direction.

[nugnug]

Oh! C'mon Nugs. Apart from not being born there, he'd lived there ALL his life. The people who owned the nearby farms were neighbours. It's unlikely the Bambers would have used the main road to get to them. The seawall was where he'd have been taken for walks as a child. We're talking about a radius of a few miles. Home territory. Waffle all you want, but you're NOT going to persuade anyone that he'd get lost walking those fields at night, OR lose all sense of direction.

but as barbra pointed he would of been seen if he had gone via the sea wall.

[David1819]

How can you 'get lost' in a place you had lived and worked for most of your life?

Me and a group of friends have done just that. And that was in broad daylight!

[guest2181]

Good running pace 😊 Come and run London marathon with me next year 😉

Which end of the rhino do you want to be?