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Offline JackieD

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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Yvonne Hartley
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 01:55:PM »
There was no 999 call.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2017, 02:04:PM »
OMG!  ;D ;D No one said they were talking to Jeremy with a loud hailer! The log makes a clear distinction between being in conversation with 'a person' inside the FARM and 'before' challenges were made to the HOUSE! Several officers noted that they were in conversation with JEREMY in their statements! This is followed by challenges to 'persons' inside the 'house' were met with no response.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 02:04:PM »
She said 'the press aren't interested'. Not surprised. They fell for Nevill's Chelmsford police phone call in 2010. Once biten...

It was a bit late for Sheila to dial 999. She was 'going crazy' 3 hours earlier.

So the police are claiming they were having conversationw with Bamber via loud speaker. And there was me thinking they would be attempting to contact Sheila.

It is surprising how passionate & determined the supporters are. A 999 call at 6.09am. Really.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 02:08:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Yvonne Hartley
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2017, 02:12:PM »
OMG!  ;D ;D No one said they were talking to Jeremy with a loud hailer! The log makes a clear distinction between being in conversation with 'a person' inside the FARM and 'before' challenges were made to the HOUSE! Several officers noted that they were in conversation with JEREMY in their statements! This is followed by challenges to 'persons' inside the 'house' were met with no response.





No response could also indicate that a person could have been alive but had refused to respond ?

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 02:50:PM »




No response could also indicate that a person could have been alive but had refused to respond ?

Well it could except they are arguing that the police had been in conversation with Sheila but the reference is to Jeremy and no one said they were talking to him through a loud hailer. The conversation with Jeremy, took place just before they challenged the house.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 03:00:PM »
She should definitely change her name!!!  ;D

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2017, 03:03:PM »
Well it could except they are arguing that the police had been in conversation with Sheila but the reference is to Jeremy and no one said they were talking to him through a loud hailer. The conversation with Jeremy, took place just before they challenged the house.






Not having watched the video,I'd have thought that police would first have handed the loudhailer to Jeremy for him to speak to his sister,as happens when there's a siege situation. That would have clinched the whole case.

The thing that makes me believe that Sheila was alive,are the notes she wrote about " police being there ",which was a pre-emptive move on her part.

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Re: Yvonne Hartley
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2017, 03:04:PM »
She should definitely change her name!!!  ;D
Or you Harts. ;D

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2017, 03:26:PM »




No response could also indicate that a person could have been alive but had refused to respond ?

It would have been better for Bamber if there was a response from inside WHF.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 03:56:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2017, 03:30:PM »





Not having watched the video,I'd have thought that police would first have handed the loudhailer to Jeremy for him to speak to his sister,as happens when there's a siege situation. That would have clinched the whole case.

The thing that makes me believe that Sheila was alive,are the notes she wrote about " police being there ",which was a pre-emptive move on her part.

The police handing the loud speaker to Bamber. I wasn't aware that was police protocol.

Bamber told the police him & Sheila didn't like each other. So not sure how Sheila hearing Bamber's voice will calm her down.
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Re: Yvonne Hartley
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2017, 03:41:PM »
dident see anything new there.

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2017, 04:12:PM »
Well it could except they are arguing that the police had been in conversation with Sheila but the reference is to Jeremy and no one said they were talking to him through a loud hailer. The conversation with Jeremy, took place just before they challenged the house.

Jeremy is already identified in that log as "son of Mr Bamber" As you already know the document does not say "firearms team in conversation with son of Mr Bamber"

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Re: Yvonne Hartley
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2017, 11:03:PM »
   Does anyone know the name of the officer that allegedly monitored the call?
   It is claimed in the interview that this officer has never been known of previously but that his name is known. Does anyone know whether this is true or not?

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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2017, 11:47:PM »
   Does anyone know the name of the officer that allegedly monitored the call?
   It is claimed in the interview that this officer has never been known of previously but that his name is known. Does anyone know whether this is true or not?