Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?

[mike tesko]

Observe the sun (via a filter for safety) or moon fairly high in the sky for a few hours on a single clear day. As it crosses the sky, it remains the same size and shape (or any change is too small to be noticed easily). This indicates that it maintains about the same distance from the observer as it crosses the sky, which is geometrically impossible if the earth is flat and the sun or moon is anything like as close as 73 miles.

How do you know that the moon is real? It could be, but what's to say that it's not a reflected image which has been projected onto the underside of the earth's 'firmament'?  Maybe it remains the same size because it's a projected image, the source of which is two or more locations on the flat earth! Off the top of my head, I can think of three such locations where this technology could be being sourced and implemented from - the hole near the south pole, the other hole at the so called top of the world in the region of the north pole, and the Alien base, in AREA 51, in Nevada!

Now I stumbled upon some very interesting images at Area 51, Nevada, which  could purport to show, how images of the moon and the other planets and stars may get projected so that they appear to an observer to be up inside the earth's 'firmament', when the bottom line is that these could simply be illusions! Do you think the powers that be aren't capable of projecting an image of the moon into the 'firmament' using technology?

Anyhow, I think the population at large is the subject of brainwashing, when it comes to the orientation of the earth which is most definitely flat in orientation, and the sun and the moon! The latter two are much or less the same in size and shape as they appear to us as observers! Calculating how high the earth's 'firmament' stretches up in altitude above the inner wall (if that's what we should call it) which commences at around 73 mile's in altitude, and stretches all the way upwards to the edge of Van Allen's (radiation) belt!

[mike tesko]

I did watch it but it's completely wrong - I used to work in navigation Mike ...

There's no doubt that it's completely wrong - because the east and west coast of the United states of America, and the UK, can't be in the northern hemisphere, yet their co-ordinations in longitude and latitude be found down at the bottom of the world (also) in the southern hemisphere close to the south pole!

[maggie]

How do you know that the moon is real? It could be, but what's to say that it's a reflected image which has been projected onto the underside of the earth's 'firmament'?  Maybe it remains the same size because it's a projected image, the source of which is two or more locations on the flat earth! Off the top of my head, I can think of three such locations where this technology could be being sourced and implemented from - the hole near the south pole, the other hole at the so called top of the world in the region not the north pole, and the Alien base, in AREA 51, in Nevada!

Now I stumbled upon some very interesting images at Area 51, Nevada, which  could purport to show, how images of the moon and the other planets and stars may get projected so that they appear to an observer to be up inside the earth's 'firmament', when the bottom line is that these could simply be illusions!

There's a lot of new thinking about what reality is as quantum theory has changed everything.  There are scientist who believe objects only exist in the way we see them when we actually look at them as it's an interaction between our eyes our brain and the energy which we convert into objects. Other scientists are questioning whether we are all components in a giant computer so the argument whether the earth is spherical or flat is of little importance, things have moved on quite a bit. 

[Reader]

. . a reflected image which has been projected onto the underside of the earth's 'firmament'?

According to you, that would be impossible, as it would mean that clouds couldn't be seen from earth to pass behind it.

[Caroline]

There's a lot of new thinking about what reality is as quantum theory has changed everything.  There are scientist who believe objects only exist in the way we see them when we actually look at them as it's an interaction between our eyes our brain and the energy which we convert into objects. Other scientists are questioning whether we are all components in a giant computer so the argument whether the earth is spherical or flat is of little importance, things have moved on quite a bit.

The argument isn't important because we already know the answer.

[mike tesko]

According to you, that would be impossible, as it would mean that clouds couldn't be seen from earth to pass behind it.

Not necessarily, since we do not know what technology 'they' are using, or may be using. If they are projecting the image of the moon against the inner edge of the earth's 'firmament' , the edge of the earth's 'firmament' is acting as a reflector! They would have to be using some sort of technically advanced laser system along which the relevant image of the moon is being beemed along inside the laser, which  upon being reflected back towards its source can be halted at a specific altitude and manifest itself wherever along the path of the laser as though it were truly the moon there, and not an allusion! When you say  it would be impossible to see clouds behind the moon this does not apply in a flat earth module because the equator is geocentric and located somewhere between the middle of the flat earth and it's circumference. The moon would obviously be so low in the sky that there will often be clouds behind it from the vantage point of one observer or more!

[mike tesko]

The argument isn't important because we already know the answer.

It depends upon who you are referring to as 'we', since I know that the earth is flat in its general orientation, save for a few mountains, hills and valleys!

I does matter that the public at large is being deceived!

[maggie]

The argument isn't important because we already know the answer.

How do we know we have the answer? Science moves on and there is much to learn.  They thought they had all the answers when they believed the earth was flat and we know that'some not true.

[mike tesko]

The inner edge of the earth's 'firmament' commences at 73 mile's in altitude. The lower edge of Van Allen's (radiation) belt, commences at around 600 miles in altitude. This enables us to calculate the height in altitude of the 'firmament' which at its peak is about 527 miles in depth!

[mike tesko]

The inner edge of the earth's 'firmament' commences at 73 mile's in altitude. The lower edge of Van Allen's (radiation) belt, commences at around 600 miles in altitude. This enables us to calculate the height in altitude of the 'firmament' which at its peak is about 527 miles in depth!

Between 73 mile's in altitude, and 600 miles in altitude!

[mike tesko]

Between 73 mile's in altitude, and 600 miles in altitude!

How thick in density is the lower Van Allen belt?

[mike tesko]

How thick in density is the lower Van Allen belt?

Altitude of 620 miles to 3,700 miles..

[mike tesko]

Another thing - when you zoom in on stars they don't really look like stars!

[Caroline]

There's no doubt that it's completely wrong - because the east and west coast of the United states of America, and the UK, can't be in the northern hemisphere, yet their co-ordinations in longitude and latitude be found down at the bottom of the world (also) in the southern hemisphere close to the south pole!

The guy in your video is basing his long/lat theory on what the THINKS Bryd said (or what he wants people to BELIEVE Bryd said). Bryd didn't say 'Middle America' he said 'Little America' and as Reader pointed out, American's pronounce little as 'liddle'. We know that his exploration base was called 'Little America' - so why on earth would be be talking about Middle America? His reading of long and lat are completely skewed because he isn't taking into account of the curvature and the fact that latitudinal lines are NOT parallel. The lines of latitude converge at the poles so the distance between them is narrower in the south pole than in the USA - something which he isn't taking account of in his demonstration. You need both long and lat to locate an area and determine it's size!

[mike tesko]

The guy in your video is basing his long/lat theory on what the THINKS Bryd said (or what he wants people to BELIEVE Bryd said). Bryd didn't say 'Middle America' he said 'Little America' and as Reader pointed out, American's pronounce little as 'liddle'. We know that his exploration base was called 'Little America' - so why on earth would be be talking about Middle America? His reading of long and lat are completely skewed because he isn't taking into account of the curvature and the fact that latitudinal lines are NOT parallel. The lines of latitude converge at the poles so the distance between them is narrower in the south pole than in the USA - something which he isn't taking account of in his demonstration. You need both long and lat to locate an area and determine it's size!

The narrator got the longitude and latitude correct, and proved that the globe earth module is nonsensical!