Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?

[mike tesko]

If any of u have got the patience and the time, check this out...

(1) - https://youtu.be/SfY3DvPuj_I

[Reader]

There is no such need for a hypothetical observer in the flat earth module

There's no need in the globe model either - it was you that chose to include it in your example.

. . . with no way of proving that people on the opposite side of the world in a globe earth module stand, walk and live upside down

It's easily proved by observations of the night sky. Their daytime is your night-time and vice-versa. In a flat earth model, why would that be?

The earth is not a globe that spins at around 1000 MPH upon its axis! It can't be true, people, animals, insects, birds, fish, aeroplanes, motor cars, and boats, cannot possibly exist, operate or function in different orientations upon the surface of the earth!

You're stating that without giving any reasons, and ignoring the fact that their orientations locally would normally be consistent.

. . . the great lights (sun and the moon) rotate above the earth in and around the firmament which cause daylight hours, and hours of darkness upon different areas of the flat earth.

When the sun is high in the sky, why doesn't the sunlight reach all of the earth simultaneously if the earth is flat?

. . . the sun, the moon and the other planets and star constellations rotate with precise accuracy around 'the north Star' which is fixed in the firmament!

That's untrue for the planets - the word planet derives from a Greek word meaning "wanderer" because the planets don't appear to rotate in that manner. You seem to be be aware of that already, so you're being untruthful deliberately.

. . . the flat earth module ticks all the boxes of logic and truth...

That's nonsense - you've already asserted that it involves a massive conspiracy to deceive everyone with "lies" about the appearance of the earth from space and numerous other matters. For example, you've yet to explain what people are seeing in the sky when they directly observe the International Space Station, and what people such as Major Peake have photographed and reported they saw while onboard the ISS.

I shall try to...

Below is a magnification of what can be seen from earth.

[Reader]

. . . there are occasions where we have the moon (in whatever phase) in the same region of the sky with the sun close by in that part of the sky

That's untrue. When the full moon is visible from England, the sun is never anything like close by in the sky.

I thought the earth contributed to the shape of the moon out in the so-called space?

Why did you think that?

[mike tesko]

There''s no need in the globe model either - it was you that chose to include it in your example.
introduced by me to demonstrate the impossibility of your assertion that the earth is a globe! The idea that people, animals, insects, birds, fish, motor cars, aeroplanes and boats could be upright, upside down, or sideways on this way or that way at one and the same time depending upon another person's perspective who is stood on another part of earth is absurd! It's easily proved by observations of the night sky. Their daytime is your night-time and vice-versa. In a flat earth model, why would that be? It's like that because the sun rotates in or around the firmament above the earth lighting up parts of the world as it passes overhead, and creating darkness in its wake... You're stating that without giving any reasons, I have given my reasons, it's not my problem if you don't understand, or you don't want to understand..and ignoring the fact that their orientations locally would normally be consistent. If you are talking about the orientation of people standing, operating or functioning in the same locale on earth, it makes no difference whether or not you rely on a globe earth model, or a flat earth module! But when you alluded to people being upside down, right way up, sideways on, this way and that way it doesn't happen on a flat earth model, there's no hypothetical explanation required to explain that imaginary phenomena. But, in a globe module scenario it does require a hypothetical explanation, which is what I provided in response, albeit the hypothetical solution that I provided turns out to be an impossibility! When the sun is high in the sky, why doesn't the sunlight reach all of the earth simultaneously if the earth is flat? the sun like the moon rotates around a static earths firmament, just like the so called planets and stars do.The size of the sun is much smaller than the general population has been led to believe, same as the size of the moon, and the size of the dark sun (these are all basically of similar size)! There is only one fixed star in, or above the firmament and that is 'the north Star' - everything else rotates in a horizontal plane around the flat earth, albeit, the so called planets appear to have somewhat elliptical orbits! The reason that the sun does not and cannot illuminate all of the flat earth all at the same time is because it's orbit in the main is half way between the fixed point of the 'north Star' and the outer circumference of the flat earth (in a flat earth module)!
If you like, the whole set up, is akin to a person sat on a horse on a carosel and they be riding round and round and round - the rotation being governed between two points, the bottom of the shaft/axle upon which the carosel turns, and the highest point of its canopy which the centre of appears to remain in a fixed part of the sky. If the base of the carosel was clear glass and a person holding a torch shone it beneath him so that the light reflected on the earth beneath, as he was riding round and around, this would replicate to a certain degree why the sun does not light up the whole of the earth, only the parts it passes directly over, with partial increment and partial disipitation in its path and wake! That's untrue for the planets - the word planet derives from a Greek word meaning "wanderer" because the planets don't appear to rotate in that manner. the rotation of the planets, operate differently to the way the distant stars appear to rotate around the fixed 'north star'. I assert that this occurs in the same way that the sun and the moon appear to rotate in the firmament of the earth, which is due to distortion in what we term to be space! Imagine that the firmament of the earth is encapsulated beneath some sort of translucent material/coating. I believe the sun and the other so called planets rotate above the earth's fimament, but that the moon operates inside it... You seem to be be aware of that already, so you're being untruthful deliberately.That's not true... That's nonsense - you've already asserted that it involves a massive conspiracy to deceive everyone with "lies" about the appearance of the earth from space There are no photographs taken from space, it's all a big lie... and numerous other matters. it's not my problem you can't accept the truth! For example, you've yet to explain what people are seeing in the sky when they directly observe the International Space Station, The ISS rotates around the inner edge of the firmament above the flat earth, in the same way the sun, the moon, the planets, and the stars do around the static 'north Star'! and what people such as Major Peake have photographed and reported they saw while onboard the ISS. it's propoganda, misinformation, and misrepresentation Below is a magnification of what can be seen from earth. seen by whom, and what equipment and type of lense and editing has taken place? Why can't the ISS be photographed in space during daylight hours? And why if the moon is so far away can it be photographed with blue sky behind it, whereas the ISS cannot?

[mike tesko]

That's untrue. When the full moon is visible from England, the sun is never anything like close by in the sky.
Why did you think that?

I didn't mean 'full moon' or 'new moon' - but the other phases and increments! I have seen the sun and the moon in the same part of the blue sky! It appears fakifized to me, unreal, what is between the sun and the moon when this happens, and you get the 1st quarter moon, the last quarter of the moon, and the crescent moons? 

[mike tesko]

I didn't mean 'full moon' or 'new moon' - but the other phases and increments! I have seen the sun and the moon in the same part of the blue sky! It appears fakifized to me, unreal, what is between the sun and the moon when this happens, and you get the 1st quarter moon, the last quarter of the moon, and the crescent moons?

How are the phases of the moon created?

'The phases of the moon are created by the relative position of the moon, to the earth, to the sun'.

Its got to be something other than the earth, right?

[mike tesko]

So, with the moon and the sun clearly visible in daylight, in a similar part of the daylight sky, how can this possibly be a determining factor in 'the phase of the moon' that is being displayed, when clearly ''no part of the earth' is anywhere near the path between 'the moon and the sun' on any given day, in the lunar cycle?

[mike tesko]

Where in any of these images can the earth, or any part of it, be 'inbetween the sun' and 'the moon' to create the 'phase' of any moon?

[mike tesko]

Where in any of these images can the earth, or any part of it, be 'inbetween the sun' and 'the moon' to create the 'phase' of any moon?

It seems to me, that we have been conned into accepting something that is in the main part, a massive deception! Since, the photographic evidence does not support what the powers that be have been brain washing the general public at large into accepting!

[mike tesko]

It seems to me, that we have been conned into accepting something that is in the main part, a massive deception! Since, the photographic evidence does not support what the powers that be have been brain washing the general public at large into accepting!

The sun has been photographed in the sky at every possible phase of the moon, so  how has the powers that be managed to get away with such a deception for so long?

Why are they lying to everybody?

Money?
Budgets?
Lifestyles?
Power?
Carreers?

Open your eyes, everybody, the 'powers that be are the real criminals', and 'fraudsters'...

[mike tesko]

Look at the following images, and ask yoursselves why it is that by cross referencing the 'sized images' of the 'sun', the 'moon', and 'the earth', they all apear to be of the exact same size?

If it is the earth casting its shadow on the moon in the first image, it appears almost identical in size and shape as the moon, right? Now, look at the photograoph of the full moon with the sun, the sun appears of a similar size and shape of the moon!

What a remarkable coincidence, thaat despite the sun being so many millions of miles away, and the moon also very far away, that all three planets appear to be of the exact same size and shape!

[mike tesko]

There is something very drastically wrong here!!!

[mike tesko]

There is something very drastically wrong here!!!

The powers thaat be have been lying to us, they have been decieving us, and brainwashing us, into accepting that which cannot possibly be true! Now, why would they do that / this?

[David1819]

Looks round to me.

[mike tesko]

The powers thaat be have been lying to us, they have been decieving us, and brainwashing us, into accepting that which cannot possibly be true! Now, why would they do that / this?

Its almost certainly got something to do with money, budgetting, quality of life, careers, for the favoured, the better off, amongst us - 'The New World Order'...