Is the Earth flat, or round, or both, but not spherical?

[mike tesko]

Albeit your thinking is somewhat skewed

Up, down, left, right, this way, that way, everything and everyboy would be in a spin at a rate equal to the speed with which the global earth model was / is turning...

The world we live in truly is a remakable place..

[mike tesko]

Up, down, left, right, this way, that way, everything and everyboy would be in a spin at a rate equal to the speed with which the global earth model was / is turning...

The world we live in truly is a remakable place..

Motor vehicles driving right way up, upside down, side ways on, the rain falling this way and that way, aeroplanes flying normally, and flying upside down and side ways on - gravity has a lot to answer for...

[mike tesko]

Motor vehicles driving right way up, upside down, side ways on, the rain falling this way and that way, aeroplanes flying normally, and flying upside down and side ways on - gravity has a lot to answer for...

This makes me believe that the earth is not a globe, because by anybodies perspective I can't begin to imagine that people are walking upright at one point on the surface of the earth, and upside down, or side ways on, this way, and that way, or vice versa, all at the same time, in a topsy turvy world of magic, and mirages...

The earth has to primarily be flat, not exactly flat, but certainly not a globe, otherwise chaos would abound, aeroplanes would have to rotate upside down, and side ways on as they travel through the sky to get from one place on the planet to the opposite location / destination...

[mike tesko]

This makes me believe that the earth is not a globe, because by anybodies perspective I can't begin to imagine that people are walking upright at one point on the surface of the earth, and upside down, or side ways on, this way, and that way, or vice versa, all at the same time, in a topsy turvy world of magic, and mirages...

The earth has to primarily be flat, not exactly flat, but certainly not a globe, otherwise chaos would abound, aeroplanes would have to rotate upside down, and side ways on as they travel through the sky to get from one place on the planet to the opposite location / destination...

If the earth was a globe, life would be oh so very different for every living thing upon the surface of the earth, since people, animals, insects, birds and fish, would not know which way was which, life would be intolerable....

Can you imagine people in the UK wanting to go on holiday to Australia because they quite fancy the idea that they will be doing everying upside down to the way they normally did things? 'Oh', the sweet adventure of feeling the aeroplane twist and rotate in the sky just to make things fit neatly?

It's a flat earth (in principle), it's got to be flat, everybody stands upright in a flat earth model, up means up, down means down, left means left and right means right! Nobody has to be driving a motor vehicle upside down on the other part of the earth, birds don't fly upside down, there! Aeroplanes don't have to twist and rotate whilst travelling from one part of the earth to another part of the same earth...

[mike tesko]

If the earth was a globe, life would be oh so very different for every living thing upon the surface of the earth, since people, animals, insects, birds and fish, would not know which way was which, life would be intolerable....

Can you imagine people in the UK wanting to go on holiday to Australia because they quite fancy the idea that they will be doing everying upside down to the way they normally did things? 'Oh', the sweet adventure of feeling the aeroplane twist and rotate in the sky just to make things fit neatly?

It's a flat earth (in principle), it's got to be flat, everybody stands upright in a flat earth model, up means up, down means down, left means left and right means right! Nobody has to be driving a motor vehicle upside down on the other part of the earth, birds don't fly upside down, there! Aeroplanes don't have to twist and rotate whilst travelling from one part of the earth to another part of the same earth...

There's no such thing as the right way up people, the upside down people, and or the side ways on people, for this to actually be true, (a) the earth would have to be a globe, and (b) the people, animals, insects, birds and the fish would all experience having their world turned upside down, inside out, this way, and that way!

As I say, gravity has to be a localised phenomena - since gravitational waves at point (a) on the earth, cannot be pulling in the same direction, at (b), (c) or (d), at one and the same time (the direction is determined as up, down, left and right)...

[Caroline]

Consider the following proposition:-

First proposition

(a) - person 1 is stood on the surface of the earth in the spherical version
(b) - person 2 is stood on the exact opposite side of the globe at 180°
(c) - person 3 is stood on the earth 90° east of person 1, 90° west of person 2
(d) - person 4 is stood on the earth 90° west of person 1, 90° east of person 2
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Second proposition

(c) - person 2 is stood on the surface of the earth in the spherical version
(b) - person 3 is stood on the exact opposite side of the globe at 180°
(c) - person 4 is stood on the earth 90° east of person 2, 90° west of person 3
(d) - person 1 is stood on the earth 90° west of person 2, 90° east of person 3
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Third proposition

(a) - person 3 is stood on the surface of the earth in the spherical version
(b) - person 4 is stood on the exact opposite side of the globe at 180°
(c) - person 1 is stood on the earth 90° east of person 3, 90° west of person 4
(d) - person 2 is stood on the earth 90° west of person 3, 90° east of person 4
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Fourth proposition

(a) - person 4 is stood on the surface of the earth in the spherical version
(b) - person 1 is stood on the exact opposite side of the globe at 180°
(c) - person 3 is stood on the earth 90° east of person 4, 90° west of person 1
(d) - person 4 is stood on the earth 90° west of person 4, 90° east of person 1

Now, let's disect the globe into 4 individual regional quadrants, let's name these, 'W', 'X', 'Y', and 'Z'...

If it rains at the exact same time in each of these (W, X, Y and Z) 4 different regions, according to 'the earth is a globe community' as per the first proposition, the rain falls down from the sky up above, to the ground down below from person 1's perspective, the rain falls upward from the ground, and downward towards the sky in person 2's situation, and it rains sideways on East to West or vice versa with regards to persons 3 and 4 respectively! In other words, its raining in all different directions at one and the same time, with each person consciously thinking and or believing that it's raining from up above (the sky) and saturating the ground below!

In order for this to occur, the earth has to be a globe...

One person's perspective of the falling rain will not correspond in direction with another person's perspective involving the same rain, since in the four examples given, it rains down, it would rain up, it would rain sideways on from east to west, and or from West to east...

People would be standing upright with their feet on the ground beneath themselves, or be standing upside down with their feet firmly on the ground above them, or be standing sideways on, this way (east to west) or that way (west to east)! A person on one part of the global earth model would drive a car with its wheels firmly on the ground beneath them, whilst on the opposite side of the earth, the other person drives their car upside down, with the four wheels of the vehicle planted firmly on the ground above him!  Yet, still further, the person's driving cars east to west (or vice versa) of persons 1 and 2 (person's 3 and 4) would be driving cars with their wheels firmly planted on the ground sideways on to the other two persons (1 and 2)...

On and on I could go, with example after example, which if true would be truly startling and hard to believe that in different parts of the world similar events which must be occurring, are unfolding differently, right way up, upside down, side ways on, and yet if there was any prospect of this being true, for example, an aeroplane travelling from say the UK to Australia, would at some time have to flip over so that not only the aeroplane became upside down, but the passengers themselves would need to be rotated during that particular flight or journey - now, we know that this does not happen and because this does not happen, the earth cannot be a globe, it has to be fundamentally flat...

I am no mug, and I can work things out, I don't need NASa or any experts pulling the wool over my eyes!!!

I can think for myself...

The earth has been known to be round for centuries, it's not a NASA concept but just what reason would these people have for conning the population of the world? And not just NASA, governments and scientists.

[Jane]

The earth has been known to be round for centuries, it's not a NASA concept but just what reason would these people have for conning the population of the world? And not just NASA, governments and scientists.

Yeah. Pythagorus was a tad pre NASA.

[mike tesko]

Religeous?

Employment?

Economics?

[mike tesko]

The really absurd notion held by those brainwashed by the powers that be, that the earth is a sphere, is that if that be the truth, we would have people, animals, insects, birds and fish, performing basic functions and activities the right way up, upside down, and side ways on, all at the same time depending upon who was looking, at who, from here, there, or fundamentally, everywhere?

[Caroline]

The really absurd notion held by those brainwashed by the powers that be, that the earth is a sphere, is that if that be the truth, we would have people, animals, insects, birds and fish, performing basic functions and activities the right way up, upside down, and side ways on, all at the same time depending upon who was looking, at who, from here, there, or fundamentally, everywhere?

Ever heard of gravity?

[Jane]

The really absurd notion held by those brainwashed by the powers that be, that the earth is a sphere, is that if that be the truth, we would have people, animals, insects, birds and fish, performing basic functions and activities the right way up, upside down, and side ways on, all at the same time depending upon who was looking, at who, from here, there, or fundamentally, everywhere?

Actually, it's ellipsoid, but that's possibly splitting hairs. On the other hand, Mike versus the genius of Pythagorus and Galileo et al? Hmmm.

[mike tesko]

The really absurd notion held by those brainwashed by the powers that be, that the earth is a sphere, is that if that be the truth, we would have people, animals, insects, birds and fish, performing basic functions and activities the right way up, upside down, and side ways on, all at the same time depending upon who was looking, at who, from here, there, or fundamentally, everywhere?

As I say, there wouldn't be the truly remakable events of aeroplanes twisting and becoming inverted during long haul flights, without the apparent realisation by its passengers that such and such had been happening, or had occurred? Ordinary people don't experience these activities because the earth is not spherical and goverened by total gravity that is 'tied in to the core of the earth' - aeroplanes don't twist and turn themselves upside down, during long haul flights, and people can't walk upside down or side ways on, or drive motor cars with all four wheels firmly up on the ground, or hang by its wheels sideways on like picture in a frame hanging on a wall - but if the earth were spherical, these features would be true and proveable...

[mike tesko]

As I say, there wouldn't be the truly remakable events of aeroplanes twisting and becoming inverted during long haul flights, without the apparent realisation by its passengers that such and such had been happening, or had occurred? Ordinary people don't experience these activities because the earth is not spherical and goverened by total gravity that is 'tied in to the core of the earth' - aeroplanes don't twist and turn themselves upside down, during long haul flights, and people can't walk upside down or side ways on, or drive motor cars with all four wheels firmly up on the ground, or hang by its wheels sideways on like picture in a frame hanging on a wall - but if the earth were spherical, these features would be true and proveable...

If the earth were truly a globe, it would be a very terrifying experience flying around the earth, in particular from one side of the earth to the opposite side, since everyones world would be turned 'upside down' and 'inside out'..

[mike tesko]

If the earth were truly a globe, it would be a very terrifying experience flying around the earth, in particular from one side of the earth to the opposite side, since everyones world would be turned 'upside down' and 'inside out'..

All such controversy is avoidable by adopting the flat earth model - where the arth is unmoveable, with a dome of atmosphere or whatever, where the sun, the moon and the stars, rotate above it! It should be obvious to anyone and everyone, that the earth does not rotate on its own axis as ( the Earth rotates on its axis once each day). Since the circumference of the Earth at the Equator is 24,901.55 miles, a spot on the Equator rotates at approximately 1037.5646 miles per hour (1037.5646 times 24 equals 24,901.55) (1669.8 km/h)...

Well, of course it does, because the powers that be tell us all this is true - how any ordinary individual could possibly measure this rate of rotation leaves a great deal to be desired.  You only have to look at a busy stretch of mortorway where traffic is moving fast in opposite directions to realise that if the earth were a globe, and it was spinning at such a high rate on its own axis, why this doesn't impact upon traffic travelling in one direction as opposed to another direction, since in one form or another at least one direction of the two would be aided by the spin of the earth, and the other adversely affected by it - yet, there appearss no evidence supporting this...

Apparently, gravitational pull or drag has no bearing upon the traffic subject of such a study...

[mike tesko]

All such controversy is avoidable by adopting the flat earth model - where the arth is unmoveable, with a dome of atmosphere or whatever, where the sun, the moon and the stars, rotate above it! It should be obvious to anyone and everyone, that the earth does not rotate on its own axis as ( the Earth rotates on its axis once each day). Since the circumference of the Earth at the Equator is 24,901.55 miles, a spot on the Equator rotates at approximately 1037.5646 miles per hour (1037.5646 times 24 equals 24,901.55) (1669.8 km/h)...

Well, of course it does, because the powers that be tell us all this is true - how any ordinary individual could possibly measure this rate of rotation leaves a great deal to be desired.  You only have to look at a busy stretch of mortorway where traffic is moving fast in opposite directions to realise that if the earth were a globe, and it was spinning at such a high rate on its own axis, why this doesn't impact upon traffic travelling in one direction as opposed to another direction, since in one form or another at least one direction of the two would be aided by the spin of the earth, and the other adversely affected by it - yet, there appearss no evidence supporting this...

Apparently, gravitational pull or drag has no bearing upon the traffic subject of such a study...

Ok, lets take a look at a good example, of what I am talking about - On a 20 / 30 mile stretch of flat motorway, we have two identical cars, same manufactuer, same model, same engine size, same weight of a solitary driver, both vehicles with a full tank of fuel. as they pass one another going in the opposite direction, they are both doing 80mph and the rev counter in each vehicle at this time was reading at 3,000 revs - why doesn't one vehicle's engine work harder than thee other, depending upon the direction both cars are travelling in?