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Offline susan

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2017, 03:12:PM »

Because if Jeremy had told her what he had done and risked her going to the police at all why give her a load of rubbish .

He would either confess or if he thought she had not cottoned on just keep quiet.


He is either clever or stupid ? Which is it .

Jan I remember Colin said he and Julie had a conversation after JB was convicted or there abouts but he was not prepared to tell us what she told him.

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2017, 03:17:PM »
Hopefully,  the potential for another myth nipped in the bud.





There was an affair between LR and MM. It was no myth.

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2017, 03:22:PM »




There was an affair between LR and MM. It was no myth.

It appears that not only do you seek revenge on Julie but anyone who dared to be her friend. I can't think why else you'd wish to see dirt heaped on this woman.

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2017, 03:25:PM »




There was an affair between LR and MM. It was no myth.

I don't believe that's true.

Liz was JM's friend. JB and MM seemed to have some sort of falling out and they hadn't seen each other since the previous year. JB was with another woman when he was friendly with MM.

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2017, 03:26:PM »
Jan I remember Colin said he and Julie had a conversation after JB was convicted or there abouts but he was not prepared to tell us what she told him.

Yes that has always stuck in my mind as well.

It was after the trial .

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2017, 04:02:PM »
So she may have been a drama queen? Actually, I'm inclined to agree, but it doesn't make all drama queens, liars, NOR, if Jeremy told her the story of a hit man -or anything else- does it make HER the liar for repeating it.

But she was a liar that is a fact everyone knows that on this forum
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2017, 04:11:PM »
But she was a liar that is a fact everyone knows that on this forum

Then in order to make good your claim, it's for you to prove that she didn't repeat the words Jeremy told her. It seems she may only be a "Liar" in your opinion and as such, can't be said to be fact.

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2017, 04:20:PM »




There was an affair between LR and MM. It was no myth.

There wasn't.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2017, 04:21:PM »



Liz had lived with both MM and MW.

No she didn't.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2017, 04:27:PM »
I don't think Liz and MM even knew each other did they.

MM statements are below. There is a second one on page 2.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4034.0.html

Some years ago I posted that MM had once had a relationship with LR - simply because I have a really bad memory for names and got MM mixed up with MW. It has since been picked up and repeated as a fact, each time I have seen it, I have tried to correct it but some people just don't want to listen because it gives LR a reason for going to the police. The fact that it isn't true doesn't seem to enter into it.
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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2017, 04:36:PM »
Some years ago I posted that MM had once had a relationship with LR - simply because I have a really bad memory for names and got MM mixed up with MW. It has since been picked up and repeated as a fact, each time I have seen it, I have tried to correct it but some people just don't want to listen because it gives LR a reason for going to the police. The fact that it isn't true doesn't seem to enter into it.

So it's your fault then!  >:(  ;D

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2017, 06:54:PM »
Some notes here gleaned from Carol Ann Lee's book:

1983-Liz Rimington worked as a waitress at the Frog and Beans pub in Colchester. She is the girlfriend of Malcolm Walters, one of the owners. She would often see Jeremy and Suzette Ford canoodling in a corner whilst her husband babysat the children at home. Jeremy told Liz Nevill and June didn't approve of the relationship and Nevill had threatened to disinherit him if he didn't end it, which he did.

Autumn 1983 Liz is now Michael Deckers' girlfriend, and he and co-owner Malcolm Waters have now sold the Frog and Beans and bought Sloppy Joe's, an American-style pizza parlour. They employ one of Liz's friends, Julie Mugford, as a waitress. Liz is now manageress.

June 1984 Liz has a one night stand with Jeremy, who is now Julie's regular boyfriend. Liz gets the impression that Jeremy has been unfaithful to Julie throughout their relationship. Jeremy tells Liz he has plans to rob an expensive house in Goldhanger but nothing seemed to come of it. Jeremy tells Liz the Bambers intended to adopt the twins and send them to boarding school.

More to follow.





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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2017, 07:07:PM »
Saturday 10 August 1985

Jeremy, Julie, Liz and Charles Marsden meet in Colchester to go bowling. Julie tells Liz:

Jeremy is so cold, he just doesn't care about anything. Believe me, if the devil has a human form on this earth then his name is Jeremy. He's the devil incarnate.

Liz: "He may be in shock.."

Julie: "If only you knew.."

Thursday 15 August

Liz, Julie, Jeremy and Brett go shopping in Colchester for the funeral.

Brett to Jeremy in front of Liz: "Buy yourself something really slick. You're inheriting all this money. Play the part."

They later drive to the Farm, where Jeremy searches for money which might have been hidden away.

Later at Bourtree Cottage Jeremy "delights in the fact that his father has weakened with age in the months before his death." He "might have married Julie and stayed in Goldhanger forever, but "with all this happening" his life would be different."
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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2017, 07:14:PM »
Saturday 31 August

Julie tells Liz she has parted with Jeremy.

Liz: "You're lucky that you're rid of him."

Julie: "You don't know the half of it."

Julie then tells Liz the whole story, and Liz urges her friend to go to the Police.

Friday 6th September

Liz persuades Julie to tell Malcolm Waters, who then urges Liz to telephone Police on Julie's behalf. At 4pm Liz puts a call through to Witham Police Station.

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Re: Liz Rimmingtons Statements
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2017, 07:17:PM »
There wasn't.

She lied numerous time starting with the cheque fraud
Fact
A nasty scheming trainee teacher who lied
Great role model
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000