" Fresh evidence uncovered ",as stated in todays Essex and Colchester Gazette.

[mike tesko]

No evidence has been posted of a 999 call being made at any time from WHF.

it has, a '999' call was being monitored by a police officer, as opposed to the call transferred to the control room by the operator being monitored by civilian employees...

[maggie]

Middle Eastern countries are no worse at treating their citizens than this country !! We allowed those who were misplaced in war-torn countries to enter this country for safety,etc. What ? Liverpool is one of the cities whose refugees/asylum-seekers are sleeping on the streets !!
I find this very upsetting and distressing as they are literally penniless because their appeals to remain in this country have been rejected. They were invited to come here for God's sake !! I'm utterly furious that governments have conned people in this way.What hope have they got in this cruel and uncaring state ?
Liverpool has the greatest number of asylum seekers in the country-----no thanks to the Labour-controlled council who'll now do sod all for them. Shame on Joe Anderson and his motley crew of council workers,who all got a pat on the back for " taking these poor desperate souls " under their wings------my eye !!

Hi lookout just been reading that Liverpool have opened a huge homeless centre off London Road. Apart from sleeping and hot meals, there is help for rough sleepers to access real help and guidance, use computers and get support to get in touch with families and look for jobs etc. This is the first such huge development in the country. Liverpool still has a heart thank goodneas. 

[lookout]

Hi lookout just been reading that Liverpool have opened a huge homeless centre off London Road. Apart from sleeping and hot meals, there is help for rough sleepers to access real help and guidance, use computers and get support to get in touch with families and look for jobs etc. This is the first such huge development in the country. Liverpool still has a heart thank goodneas.
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Hi Maggie,is this the building at Hatton Gardens ? Kingsway House,I think. Yes,I remember reading about a place being opened for the homeless and those affected by drugs,etc,where there is genuine support for these people in the way of a team working towards helping and assisting with the prospect of having their own homes.

[maggie]

Hi lookout just been reading that Liverpool have opened a huge homeless centre off London Road. Apart from sleeping and hot meals, there is help for rough sleepers to access real help and guidance, use computers and get support to get in touch with families and look for jobs etc. This is the first such huge development in the country. Liverpool still has a heart thank goodneas.
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Hi Maggie,is this the building at Hatton Gardens ? Kingsway House,I think. Yes,I remember reading about a place being opened for the homeless and those affected by drugs,etc,where there is genuine support for these people in the way of a team working towards helping and assisting with the prospect of having their own homes.

Thought it said off London Road Lookout. Will have to check. It seems to be a huge building which has been open for about a week. Have been thinking of those poor people, wind ofarm the Merseyside in winter is enough to kill anyone. Brilliant move. I gather the government have refused to fund it but they're doing it anyway.

[lookout]

Thought it said off London Road Lookout. Will have to check. It seems to be a huge building which has been open for about a week. Have been thinking of those poor people, wind ofarm the Merseyside in winter is enough to kill anyone. Brilliant move. I gather the government have refused to fund it but they're doing it anyway.

So up by or past TJ's somewhere ? I knew about the Hatton Garden place,but not that one. I must look out for it. Of course the government won't want to know anything like that,it's beneath them. They'd rather throw money at the art gallery where you find unmade beds and a crude brick layout in the name of art 
Joe Anderson will be making the council cough up too,even if it means extra on council tax------as after all those who moan and complain about beggars and the homeless will also complain over a slight rise in rates,even when it's they who do the most moaning about these people.  Can't win with them.

[maggie]

So up by or past TJ's somewhere ? I knew about the Hatton Garden place,but not that one. I must look out for it. Of course the government won't want to know anything like that,it's beneath them. They'd rather throw money at the art gallery where you find unmade beds and a crude brick layout in the name of art 
Joe Anderson will be making the council cough up too,even if it means extra on council tax------as after all those who moan and complain about beggars and the homeless will also complain over a slight rise in rates,even when it's they who do the most moaning about these people.  Can't win with them.

Camden street off London Road. It used to benjoy a dance studio but has been done up and opened as an officiak shelter by the council. Seems to be a big 4 storey building with room for all rough sleepers.

[maggie]

So up by or past TJ's somewhere ? I knew about the Hatton Garden place,but not that one. I must look out for it. Of course the government won't want to know anything like that,it's beneath them. They'd rather throw money at the art gallery where you find unmade beds and a crude brick layout in the name of art 
Joe Anderson will be making the council cough up too,even if it means extra on council tax------as after all those who moan and complain about beggars and the homeless will also complain over a slight rise in rates,even when it's they who do the most moaning about these people.  Can't win with them.

Yes, it's Jo Anderson who's instigated it. Thing is there's no help for anything like this for local councils but any decent person should realise rough sleeping on the city streets is shameful and these people need warmth and safety. When I was young there was real poverty but don't remember seeing anyone sleeping on the streets of course we had lots of council housrs and people had a roof over there head back then. Good for Liverpool anyway, hope other cities have the guts to do the same. 

[lookout]

Yes, it's Jo Anderson who's instigated it. Thing is there's no help for anything like this for local councils but any decent person should realise rough sleeping on the city streets is shameful and these people need warmth and safety. When I was young there was real poverty but don't remember seeing anyone sleeping on the streets of course we had lots of council housrs and people had a roof over there head back then. Good for Liverpool anyway, hope other cities have the guts to do the same. 

I agree Maggie,these people should not be judged. Nobody knows of their circumstances or how they ended up like that.

I don't remember seeing any rough sleepers years ago,probably because it was cheaper to live and there wasn't the nonsense that there is now with unemployment benefits being sanctioned if you don't find a job ( an horrendous arrangement if ever there was one ) it's caused untold unnecessary hardship and misery. So unfair.

[maggie]

I agree Maggie,these people should not be judged. Nobody knows of their circumstances or how they ended up like that.

I don't remember seeing any rough sleepers years ago,probably because it was cheaper to live and there wasn't the nonsense that there is now with unemployment benefits being sanctioned if you don't find a job ( an horrendous arrangement if ever there was one ) it's caused untold unnecessary hardship and misery. So unfair.

I agree, the guy I saw who's already sleeping in the shelter, he lost his home because he was in hospital and his landlord let his flat to someone else.  Hard to believe really.

[lookout]

I agree, the guy I saw who's already sleeping in the shelter, he lost his home because he was in hospital and his landlord let his flat to someone else.  Hard to believe really.

That's so cruel Maggie. Have they no hearts ? Look at the amount of servicemen sleeping rough too.
Shameful !

[lookout]

How like you to wish ill on someone who disagrees with your summations, Lookout. Of COURSE I understand -having, like you, read about it- that there are SOME parents who exploit their children, but I don't make sweeping statements about all children being thieves. I'm fully aware that there are 'professional' pick-pockets who work our cities but they're not ALL either children or Romanians.

PS. I think you'll find that Jeremy WAS proved guilty.

Guilty under FALSE pretences. I'd give up the game if I were you !!

[Jane]

Guilty under FALSE pretences. I'd give up the game if I were you !!

You're the one who screaming 'FALSE' pretenses but from much of what you let out of your mouth before you stop to check it's veracity, you can't always be trusted to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth, can you?...................in fact, I wholly believe you'd insist that night was day if you thought it would benefit Jeremy.

[maggie]

I have removed posts from this thread. What a disgraceful personal attack that was on another poster.
If anyone has a problem about a phrase used by another poster ie. Anything you may judge   as racist, sexist, ageist or anything else they can complain to Admin or a moderator. Anymore abusive personal attacks like that and I will ban both of you or anyone else who behaves in a similar manner. You know who you are, take this as a warning.

[guest154]

I have removed posts from this thread. What a disgraceful personal attack that was on another poster.
If anyone has a problem about a phrase used by another poster ie. Unsupervised it as racist, sexist, ageist or anything else they can complain to Admin or a moderator. Anymore abusive personal attacks like that and I will ban both of you or anyone else who behaves in a similar manner. You know who you are, take this as a warning.

If you wish to ban me for pointing out Lookouts racist post, or her homophobic post towards me, feel free. Says a lot.

[maggie]

If you wish to ban me for pointing out Lookouts racist post, or her homophobic post towards me, feel free. Says a lot.

I would ban you for being so abusive to another poster. I don't know what you are inferring by 'says a lot' but please don't accuse me of being racist that really would be ridiculous. I must have missed the homophobic post or are you referring to a post which was removed in the past?
As I said if you have a complaint against any poster you can report it through the proper channels, two posters chucking abuse at anyone in that way is not acceptable.
The post you were referring to should have been edited but sometimes these things get missed and as I say you only had to report it.