" Fresh evidence uncovered ",as stated in todays Essex and Colchester Gazette.

[mike tesko]

I think he was a cruel, murdering psychopath.  I know, have known Iraqi's and am in no doubt of what he was.
He murdered hundreds of thousands of his own citizens, gassed the Kurds, killed the Marsh Arabs etc....  whatever accusations can be directed at others doesn't take away the sheer brutality of that man.  I don't believe in capital punishment therefore don't believe he should have been executed but that's a different argument.

Warning this video may be upsetting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUktJbp2Ug

He didn't do the things you are claiming, for the reasons you are claiming, its all nonsense!

Our Prime minister of the day, and the American President bombed women, children and innocent victims in Iraq and the middle east then, but nobody gives a hoot about it because when the west does anything they claim it was/is justified! The Iraq's you knew or know were all probably westernised by the time they expressed their views or opinions to you! Hussein has been blamed for attrocities committed by others, including attrocities committed by his own sons...

[Jane]

The Prime Minister Theresa May xxxxxxxx

When she was the Home Secretary, she was advocating, and promosing justice, here, there, and everywhere, but now she is on the throne of power, she is nothing but a xxxxxxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!

He didn't do the things you are claiming, for the reasons you are claiming, its all nonsense!

Our Prime minister of the day, and the American President bombed women, children and innocent victims in Iraq and the middle east then, but nobody gives a hoot about it because when the west does anything they claim it was/is justified! The Iraq's you knew or know were all probably westernised by the time they expressed their views or opinions to you! Hussein has been blamed for attrocities committed by others, including attrocities committed by his own sons...

Mike, you seem to have hit a new low. The language -and some of the sentiments- used here is wholly unacceptable and unnecessarily offensive. Employing such is more likely to get posts ignored, than read.

[maggie]

He didn't do the things you are claiming, for the reasons you are claiming, its all nonsense!

Our Prime minister of the day, and the American President bombed women, children and innocent victims in Iraq and the middle east then, but nobody gives a hoot about it because when the west does anything they claim it was/is justified! The Iraq's you knew or know were all probably westernised by the time they expressed their views or opinions to you! Hussein has been blamed for attrocities committed by others, including attrocities committed by his own sons...

My sister has been close friends for over 40 years with someone who's father was a  member of Saddam's government back in 1970s there is no doubt he was every bit as wicked as he was portrayed. Most of her family escaped before Saddam killed them but two of her brother's died.

I think it's an insult to all those people, many his own citizens, who were tortured and murdered at his hands over so many years for anyone to claim he was not a wicked and totally immoral psychopath.  He was supported by this country for most of those years because it suited us and by that I mean pretty well all of us. Don't think many people lost sleep worrying about the misery of people living in fear under such a despot. We quite liked the oil tho' .

Th West turned against him when he wasn't any use to us anymore because he was out of control and wouldn't do our bidding any longer.

 

[maggie]

I only pasted the video link. Someone has edited my post and wrote stuff 

That was me David, sorry,  didn't realise you had posted the link because it was late and I was trying to edit Mike's post.

[lookout]

That was me David, sorry,  didn't realise you had posted the link because it was late and I was trying to edit Mike's post.

Middle Eastern countries are no worse at treating their citizens than this country !! We allowed those who were misplaced in war-torn countries to enter this country for safety,etc. What ? Liverpool is one of the cities whose refugees/asylum-seekers are sleeping on the streets !!
I find this very upsetting and distressing as they are literally penniless because their appeals to remain in this country have been rejected. They were invited to come here for God's sake !! I'm utterly furious that governments have conned people in this way.What hope have they got in this cruel and uncaring state ?
Liverpool has the greatest number of asylum seekers in the country-----no thanks to the Labour-controlled council who'll now do sod all for them. Shame on Joe Anderson and his motley crew of council workers,who all got a pat on the back for " taking these poor desperate souls " under their wings------my eye !! 

[lookout]

Apologies for the outburst,but I can't help thinking about these poor people and am finding it difficult to concentrate on much else,nor comprehend the cruelty meted out of broken promises for a better and safer life. Safe ?---on the streets of Liverpool at night ??

[maggie]

Middle Eastern countries are no worse at treating their citizens than this country !! We allowed those who were misplaced in war-torn countries to enter this country for safety,etc. What ? Liverpool is one of the cities whose refugees/asylum-seekers are sleeping on the streets !!
I find this very upsetting and distressing as they are literally penniless because their appeals to remain in this country have been rejected. They were invited to come here for God's sake !! I'm utterly furious that governments have conned people in this way.What hope have they got in this cruel and uncaring state ?
Liverpool has the greatest number of asylum seekers in the country-----no thanks to the Labour-controlled council who'll now do sod all for them. Shame on Joe Anderson and his motley crew of council workers,who all got a pat on the back for " taking these poor desperate souls " under their wings------my eye !!

I agree with you Lookout, I support asylums seekers and an horrified at our treatment and attitude to them but that doesn't change the truth about Saddam.

[lookout]

I agree with you Lookout, I support asylums seekers and an horrified at our treatment and attitude to them but that doesn't change the truth about Saddam.

It seems that we have his type in government,Maggie.
There is no support whatsoever for these people and many have TB. Where they've failed appeals and been rejected,there's no recourse to public funds,so what are they supposed to do ? This is a huge problem and a very visible one too. They get bullied,spat on,sworn at-------it's dreadful.
The Home Office has a lot to answer for too as this is just one city among many.

[Jane]

It seems that we have his type in government,Maggie.
There is no support whatsoever for these people and many have TB. Where they've failed appeals and been rejected,there's no recourse to public funds,so what are they supposed to do ? This is a huge problem and a very visible one too. They get bullied,spat on,sworn at-------it's dreadful.
The Home Office has a lot to answer for too as this is just one city among many.

An actor friend -who started out life working for the DSS and was guaranteed work during his 'resting' period, had to retire in his mid 50's because he was infected with TB by, it was believed, one of the many asylum seekers he was trying to help.

[lookout]

An actor friend -who started out life working for the DSS and was guaranteed work during his 'resting' period, had to retire in his mid 50's because he was infected with TB by, it was believed, one of the many asylum seekers he was trying to help.

This is something else I failed to understand when these people arrived here as to why they weren't all checked for illnesses and diseases and given the appropriate vaccinations via a  travelling mobile vehicle,as was once seen on our roads many years ago when TB was a problem.
I don't think that even the children had been medically checked and vaccinated too as ours are,which means that common illnesses,etc mutate if not protected against them.

[Jane]

This is something else I failed to understand when these people arrived here as to why they weren't all checked for illnesses and diseases and given the appropriate vaccinations via a  travelling mobile vehicle,as was once seen on our roads many years ago when TB was a problem.
I don't think that even the children had been medically checked and vaccinated too as ours are,which means that common illnesses,etc mutate if not protected against them.

I guess for similar reasons, as the one given M when he tried to give back the winter fuel allowance, it would cost too much to implement/they were short staffed. I'm not anti TRUE asylum seekers -help SHOULD (that dreadful, judgemental word) be available to all in genuine need- but I'm conscious that we're told there's not enough money to provide support for those who have lived here all their lives so I have to wonder how the money can be found to support people who stand little chance of being able to put back into the system which has supported them.

[lookout]

I guess for similar reasons, as the one given M when he tried to give back the winter fuel allowance, it would cost too much to implement/they were short staffed. I'm not anti TRUE asylum seekers -help SHOULD (that dreadful, judgemental word) be available to all in genuine need- but I'm conscious that we're told there's not enough money to provide support for those who have lived here all their lives so I have to wonder how the money can be found to support people who stand little chance of being able to put back into the system which has supported them.

I also understand about the provisions,etc to our own " home-grown " of society,( here's that word ) BUT,how many rogues exist who even abuse the very system which is meant to support those in GENUINE NEED ? I think half the staff at these assessment places need to visit Spec-Savers.
It grieves me when I read about the amount of fraud which is carried out among many who know the system inside out.Those who go limping along for assessments,complete with walking stick ( that you never normally see ) The millions that are wasted on these lead-swingers could be going towards the upkeep of those who genuinely need it,i.e. asylum seekers to give them a chance in life to at least prove themselves.
This country is duff when it comes to economics and " jobsworths " especially in councils,picking up their over-inflated pay packets . There's a lot of them about.!!

[Jane]

I also understand about the provisions,etc to our own " home-grown " of society,( here's that word ) BUT,how many rogues exist who even abuse the very system which is meant to support those in GENUINE NEED ? I think half the staff at these assessment places need to visit Spec-Savers.
It grieves me when I read about the amount of fraud which is carried out among many who know the system inside out.Those who go limping along for assessments,complete with walking stick ( that you never normally see ) The millions that are wasted on these lead-swingers could be going towards the upkeep of those who genuinely need it,i.e. asylum seekers to give them a chance in life to at least prove themselves.
This country is duff when it comes to economics and " jobsworths " especially in councils,picking up their over-inflated pay packets . There's a lot of them about.!!

We are 'told' that the numbers who abuse the system are so minimal that it would cost more to weed them out than the amount saved by so doing. Believe THAT if you will. I certainly know one of their number. She rakes it in faster than it can be handed out. Council tax paid, mortgage paid, new car, taxed, every three years. The list goes on. There's f'all wrong with her. I know it. She knows I know it. Personally, I'd SOONER see her benefits go to someone in GENUINE need, but I can't help but feel that there's enough NOT getting the help they need -are entitled to- because it's being given to people like her. To be frank, it's almost as if they couldn't care less WHO the benefits are given to, as long as it can be said that the Government are giving out X billions.

[lookout]

We are 'told' that the numbers who abuse the system are so minimal that it would cost more to weed them out than the amount saved by so doing. Believe THAT if you will. I certainly know one of their number. She rakes it in faster than it can be handed out. Council tax paid, mortgage paid, new car, taxed, every three years. The list goes on. There's f'all wrong with her. I know it. She knows I know it. Personally, I'd SOONER see her benefits go to someone in GENUINE need, but I can't help but feel that there's enough NOT getting the help they need -are entitled to- because it's being given to people like her. To be frank, it's almost as if they couldn't care less WHO the benefits are given to, as long as it can be said that the Government are giving out X billions.

I think there's a person like that in most neighbourhoods and it's disgusting to see when assessment time comes. On go the " collars ",out comes the stick or crutches and the hobbling begins,and the wheelchair goes in the boot.
Holiday time is so much different ! Carrying suitcases,heaving them into the car boot,and off they go. It's become a way of life--------oh,and the golf course and gym. Marvellous isn't it ?
I keep saying to myself,"give them enough rope",but up to now,it hasn't happened.

[Jane]

I think there's a person like that in most neighbourhoods and it's disgusting to see when assessment time comes. On go the " collars ",out comes the stick or crutches and the hobbling begins,and the wheelchair goes in the boot.
Holiday time is so much different ! Carrying suitcases,heaving them into the car boot,and off they go. It's become a way of life--------oh,and the golf course and gym. Marvellous isn't it ?
I keep saying to myself,"give them enough rope",but up to now,it hasn't happened.

And whilst 'they' say that sorting out the problem would cost too much to implement, 'they' seem to forget who is actually paying for these scroungers to take holidays, play golf, and join gyms. I sometimes wonder what might happen if all of us protested who felt enough was enough? They'd probably charge us with civil disobedience/unrest -even starting a civil war!!!- and put us in prison..................and the scroungers would STILL be getting benefits they weren't entitled to!!!